 Originally Posted by cmmgibson
Philosopher: What do you mean? I am asking because I'm genuinely interested in your ideas. How does dreaming lead to self realization? By your other comment it would seem as if there is not 'realizing' to be done, but rather, self creating. Maybe I misunderstood though.
Most people believe that dreams only involve their own mind. I believed this myself for many, many years. I have learned this is not true. There is what men call "God" which only means ability not comprehensible to man, and that the human mind is evolving towards a specific function in regard to the life of the body. i.e. "The Plan of God." human psychological evolution.
Men think and understand like children, it is just where we are on the evolutionary scale. But history is being guided, I believe. We are in what may be called a garden of God.
Try this, Wild, but in entering the Lucid Dreamstate, ask a very specific question--something simple enough so that you may understand the answer. You will recieve a visual and sometimes partly auditory response. How to understand it, I give examples of in my L & E essay. You can learn to converse with this thing men call God, Numbers 12:6. These images are a langauge, examples are even given in Scripture on how to understand them. This God can speak in plain English, or what ever language you desire, but that is not the purpose, the purpose is to exercise your mind. In the simple, the foundation of langauge is learning to say what you see--to abstract the concepts present--or as Plato put it, the similie in Multis. You will start to understand langauge differently because in order to comprehend it, you must exercise basic principles of judgment. In this respect, the dialogs of Plato and even the Elements of Euclid are important lessons to study.
We are mind, and self realization is no more than attaining to a correct function in regard to life itself.
This is the focus of all my personal hobbies since I was in diapers. There is a right way to be.
I had a girl do this once, told her to ask who I am, she got a response that scared her so bad she never tried it again. Learning the truth about reality is not an easy thing for many people.
Theory: Here is a little theory I cooked up. We learn by experience, i.e. perception determines conception conception determines will. Now, the more evolved you are, the more you can manipulate your environment to get more out of that process.
Reality is common to all. Yet we have very specific abilities. So, During our waking hours we learn from the same source--reality. We can extend this to dreams however, they are aimed at our specific requirements. Thus, we learn, our behavior becomes modified even during sleep. And, just like in the waking state, one will generally be unaware that learning is taking place. This educational function is actually written of in scripture, so one might say, welcome to a school by the gods.
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