Thread: Should pedophiles use lucid dreaming to live out their fantasies?

Are you asking for yourself? ;p

Well, if it's in their own mind and they don't post about their experiences on dream views then I wouldn't care. None of my business anyway.

I don't understand the word "Should". Are you asking if it is harmful for them or others if they live out their fantasies in lucid dreaming?

I don't see a problem with it. It's a victimless action. No harm, no foul.

Sure, if you want. Its all in your mind as long as you do not relive the acts in real life.. though that's obvious.

If I had to choose with knowing pedos are carrying out their fantasies in real life vs. lucid dreaming, I'd much prefer to know that it's lucid dreaming. Either way it's creepy/messed up/etc., but at least in a dream it's not real/messing up real kids.

Really though, I think they shouldn't even do that. They might be weird, but they can choose to do other things with people their own age...no need to get kids involved.

If they're simply dreaming, then sure. I'm sure most of us have dreamt of things far worse (whether intentionally or not) so I don't see why pedophilia should be seen as any different.

Also, that avatar is sooo fucking creepy.

Lets hope that pedophile can't astral project!!! Hide the kids on the Astral Plane!!!!

I say no. If you mean the actual definition of pedophile, it means they're already mentally unstable (there's obviously something different in the "wiring upstairs"), so it'd be dangerous to even let them try it in their dreams. They could get ideas, or it could make them want the real thing more.

Not unless they're behind bars for life, then I could care less what they do in their dreams. I just think it would tempt them to go for the real thing even more - as someone else mentioned.

However, I think they should try to be cured/healed of their illness and if that's not possible, as much as I hate to say it - they should be put to rest. If that sounds harsh, just imagine how you would feel if one of them touched your kid.

If I had super powers, my first priority in this world would be to seek & destroy people harming children!

As sick as they are they do have the free will to do what they like in the astral dreamscape, and here too but in the larger scheme of things i hope they will eventually see how that kind of thinking is stagnating their growth as a Being. Negativity stunts all growth but we can all learn to be positive. :-) namaste.

To the people saying it would "tempt" them more...it's just like the video-games-causing-violent-behavior debate. Complete and utter rubbish.

Sure why not, it is either that or building stress over their condition. And we all know stress is bad, more chances of trying the real thing or searching for waking ways to get rid of it.

Originally Posted by Mario92

To the people saying it would "tempt" them more...it's just like the video-games-causing-violent-behavior debate. Complete and utter rubbish.

Regarding violence in video games, many of us have a natural inclination to want to run people over, gun them down etc., when we feel anger/stress/anxiety as a results of anger/emotion. Video games are a very great way to satisfy those inner cravings for violence. I've spent many hours killing and destroying property in GTA.

Being attracted to kids? Not natural to begin with, so no I would not want to encourage that. A great example of this is pornography, which is also sexual in nature obviously. Porn addicts always want the real thing eventually.

Uh, it is natural, just not common. It also happens to hurt other people (children), and it doesn't means pedophiles will act on their instincts, just like people won't act on wanting to run over someone else, as you put it.

Originally Posted by JustDream

Being attracted to kids? Not natural to begin with, so no I would not want to encourage that. A great example of this is pornography, which is also sexual in nature obviously. Porn addicts always want the real thing eventually.

Try talking to an actual pedophile at some point. Most will tell you they tried to stop their feelings. Many went to therapy at some point. Few are ever able to change. It's a hardwired part of their brain that is entirely natural. Pornography, too, is perfectly natural. It's nice, and nearly all human brains find it arousing on some level. It's just how the brain works.

I dont see why not, no one is actually getting raped

Originally Posted by Mario92

Try talking to an actual pedophile at some point. Most will tell you they tried to stop their feelings. Many went to therapy at some point. Few are ever able to change. It's a hardwired part of their brain that is entirely natural. Pornography, too, is perfectly natural. It's nice, and nearly all human brains find it arousing on some level. It's just how the brain works.

So given your post, I'm taking from it that the term "pedophile" should be defined. What about the people who don't want to stop it, or the people who really don't have a conscience, so to speak? I agree that it is a natural feeling for most people, but when one takes it far enough, as in abusing and hurting children just to satisfy these feelings... Would it still be right for them to go about their desired activities in a lucid dream?

Originally Posted by Puffin

So given your post, I'm taking from it that the term "pedophile" should be defined. What about the people who don't want to stop it, or the people who really don't have a conscience, so to speak? I agree that it is a natural feeling for most people, but when one takes it far enough, as in abusing and hurting children just to satisfy these feelings... Would it still be right for them to go about their desired activities in a lucid dream?

As long as they aren't hurting anyone, I don't care what they do in a dream. Even if they are hurting people, that matter is separate from what they do in dreams. Their dreams are their own business, and for the mentally sane, don't have any significant bearing on reality. Just like some people get off on the idea of raping someone, as long as they don't follow through, I don't care. Even if they do follow through, I don't give a damn what they dream about. The only actions that matter are the ones that happen here in reality. Dreams will not increase the likelihood of a pedophile or a rapist abusing someone. Killing off a thousand people in a dream isn't going to make anyone more violent. Same principle applies.

I think I'm torn about this. I guess it depends when it comes to certain Pedophiles, but some may get an even greater urge from the dreams to do it in real life while some might actually feel better and never try it in real life or think about it as much.

I seem to believe in this weird notion that peoples' thoughts are just as powerful as their actions. But that's a whole new can of worms, I suppose.

Pedophillia in your dreams is fine. By the way pedophilia is natural just don't act on it. ALso most pedos don't act unless they are also psychopaths.

Originally Posted by Puffin

I seem to believe in this weird notion that peoples' thoughts are just as powerful as their actions. But that's a whole new can of worms, I suppose.

I disagree entirely. Just because you THINK about killing someone, doesn't mean you're actually going to follow through. If it did, we'd be murderers, all. There is a clear distinction between fantasy and reality, and as long as people are able to distinguish between the two and keep them separated, there is no harm done.

What makes pedophilia wrong is not a moral issue, but the fact that it violates the freewill of a child who does not have the same power as an adult. I guess this might be considered morality, but I think that instinctuallly we know that violating freewill is wrong. What makes pedophilia natural is the same thing that makes any sexual orientation natural. Most of us are willing to accept that homosexuality is natural and is not a choice. But pedophilia? It is the same. People don't choose to be attracted to children, and they cannot change it. I have a theory that if a man is attracted to a boy it is like he is half-gay. He is attracted to males, but does not like the hairiness and pheremones of an adult male, but prefers a child who is weaker, less hairy, less smelly, like a woman. Still, it is wrong to act on it. I don't know why a man would be sexually attracted to a female child. Well, there are all sorts of attraction. Perhaps many people confuse different attractions as sexual attractions. It might be an attraction to innocence. Perhaps it can be a sickness in many situations. But mostly I think it is a natural desire that is taboo and harmful to children. By natural, I don't mean that everyone has this attraction, but rather that it is just what a certain percentage of the population is like, and would be like no matter what.

I don't consider being sexually involved with a sexually mature minor pedophilia, but the law might think otherwise.
So, go ahead and do it in your dreams, and don't feel guilty. But please don't act on it in waking life or else!

I think it is okay to an extent. As long as you don't allow urges to take over in waking life.