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      Killing DC's; a question regarding the impact it has on the mind/self

      Simply put: What are your views on intentionally hunting down specific DC's and killing them in a gruesome manner? Is this a good or bad thing for the mind? I have plans on locating all of my ex's (the one's worth my ventilation, anyway) and putting them all 6 feet under in more than one piece.

      I have mixed views on why I want to do this. Firstly: because I feel it will help cleanse my mind of unwanted personages. Symbolism is strong in dreams, and death can represent the end of something old/unwanted. I've always been very literal when it comes to ''facing my demons'', and go by the understanding that what I sort out in the dream world will be sorted in terms of my state of mind generally.
      There are also sadistic influences. Although I'm not a violent person, I have had my deranged phases in which I've wanted to take the lives of others in mannerisms too explicit to go into here (from which states of mind I'm safety at ease from these days). It would be interesting to see what I'm actually capable of doing in a lucid dream.. and how realistic the end result would look.

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      Ok, I'm kinda freaked out right now, but it's late, and I'm tired. ANd my brain isn't properly working very late. I'm actually thinking about dedicating my life to plant bell pepper in a small, cute, yellow house this moment so I'll try to answer tomorrow, okay?

      mmm... Bell pepper
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      As you wish, sir.

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      I only kill DCs for fun or to get rid of them, I don't carry out anything serious, why are you asking us if it's right, that's your judgement.
      And WDr, I have no idea what you are talking about.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
      And WDr, I have no idea what you are talking about.
      Exactly

      Anyway, about your question. Personally I don't like voilation at all, not in dreams and not IRL. I don't think that killing your exes will make your world balanced again. Why don't you try to have a lucid where you talk about thong and become friends or something? Or you could try to do that in IRL, that would be even better

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      Quote Originally Posted by WDr View Post
      Why don't you try to have a lucid where you talk about thong and become friends or something? Or you could try to do that in IRL, that would be even better

      That's the thing.. It's not that simple. Pretty much all of them turned out to be really nasty, abusive pieces of work. I just want them gone in every form.

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      I guess it's really how you let it affect your mind.
      Example: You're lucid, and someone attacks you in your dream. You kill them. Do you care? Most people wouldn't. Here's why: In a normal waking state, if you killed someone in self defence, then you'd still be shocked and probably freaked out, but you know it was the right thing to do, or you'd be dead right now. This, combined with the fact that you know it's a dream, you don't really care. (Well, the majority)
      Now lets look at killing someone innocent, who woul do this? Apart from serial killers, who are normally seriously mentally messed up. Imagine if you were to do this in real life, and you were a normal person. You'd be incredibly depressed and sad, it'd consume you. So, I mean, even if you do tell yourself it's a dream, it could still eat away at you.
      However for instance, you seem to be fine with it, so I doubt it'll bother you, it's how you let it affect you. Just tell yourself it's your imagination, no different to thinking a thought.
      I myself, wouldn't kill anyone, I think there's alot more productive ways to spend lucidity, but if it's what you want to do, go for it. Just be ready incase it does affect you.
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      Personally I don't like using violence in my dreams.
      I've tried approaching negative dream characters with kindness because I figured more negativity would just make them stronger.
      Once I yelled at a character to leave me alone and then I absorbed it. I felt this was like reclaiming the energy that this person was taking from me.

      It really depends on how you feel about it. You can try killing one of them and see how you feel afterwards. If you don't feel great about it, you could find the DC again and apologize.
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      Quote Originally Posted by insideout View Post
      Personally I don't like using violence in my dreams.
      I've tried approaching negative dream characters with kindness because I figured more negativity would just make them stronger.
      Once I yelled at a character to leave me alone and then I absorbed it. I felt this was like reclaiming the energy that this person was taking from me.

      It really depends on how you feel about it. You can try killing one of them and see how you feel afterwards. If you don't feel great about it, you could find the DC again and apologize.
      If I see a threat in my dream I'm going to fight it to the death with anything that can appear in my imagination. Maybe I'll choke them to death like some star wars shiz.

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      In general, I don't think intentionally encouraging your violent thoughts is ever a good idea. Of course, we are all human, and violence is in our nature.

      I think the best way to get over a grudge is to forget about it so you can move on. Focus on other, more positive goals. We have unlimited freedom in dreams. We can be anyone we want. Our lives can be anything we can imagine. Why waste that time dwelling on past grievances?
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      Violence is NOT human nature. It's screwed up thinking and could use a few adjustments. I've seen this in this forum in several forms. Forcing rape in dreams would be one. There are many others, but that raping thing is not cool. That is psychologically raping yourself. Not good. The thing many seem to not realize is that what you dream becomes one day real.

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      My opinion: why would anyone find killing DCs entirely "enjoyable"?

      I agree that it might be fascinating to see what happens to them when they die and how they react, among other things - testing to see the nature of dreams and all. But doing it simply to watch the blood run and try one's hand at injuring someone... That, I fail to understand. Doing sadistic or morbid things in a dream simply because of curiosity doesn't justify it for me; I could never bring myself to stab someone or shoot them in the head, even if they were just a DC. It's not the fact that they're not real, but more so the fact that a good number of people, including myself, would cringe at the possibility of killing someone in a dream. As Robot_Butler mentioned, we all have violent tenancies but we've developed as a species to be capable of morality. We're not nearsighted creatures that can only think of one basic thing at a time. It doesn't feel good to kill anything, especially other people.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      I would probably agree, but erm... your Avatar?
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      Quote Originally Posted by eldante View Post
      I would probably agree, but erm... your Avatar?
      I couldn't care less about the violence in it. I'm just loving the guy. If he was barfing rainbows and swimming in a sea of clouds, I'd still use the image of him as my avatar. |'D
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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
      I couldn't care less about the violence in it. I'm just loving the guy. If he was barfing rainbows and swimming in a sea of clouds, I'd still use the image of him as my avatar. |'D

      'k, just lost any respect 4 u.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eldante View Post
      'k, just lost any respect 4 u.
      why?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Solarflare View Post
      why?
      See post above.

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      killing someone is like last on my list and if i ever kill someone, it wont be like

      oh DC, i get knife and stab stab stab blood blood blood YAY

      it would be like a fight with swords or a shooting lazers out of your hands fight
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      I wouldn't kill DCs. At least before confronting them. Ask questions? Shoot later!

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      Don't you talk about our Puffin like that!!


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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      Don't you talk about our Puffin like that!!

      And just exactly why shouldn't I?

      One hand speaking: I don't like violence.

      Second hand speaking: If I think the guy (or gal) is cute, I don't care if they are violent.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eldante View Post
      And just exactly why shouldn't I?

      One hand speaking: I don't like violence.

      Second hand speaking: If I think the guy (or gal) is cute, I don't care if they are violent.
      With both hands I choke you. No. Choke with one, slap with the other.

      Ok, that was a flippant response, but I know you'll take it way too seriously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with dreaming or fantasizing about a little violence. It's human nature. You're just not human is all. Or rather you deny your human nature.

      And you do know it was only a movie, right?

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      Just a friendly reminder to stay on topic, and try to contribute something to the original discussion.~
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      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post


      Just a friendly reminder to stay on topic, and try to contribute something to the original discussion.~

      The original topic was about what you think about violence. I think I have made my position clear. Yours is at best two sided and hazy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eldante View Post
      The original topic was about what you think about violence. I think I have made my position clear. Yours is at best two sided and hazy.
      Would you care to elaborate on why you think I'm not getting my point(s) across? I'm very much against violence in dreams, and personally performing any violent acts towards others. I'll assume that my avatar is making my view seem less solid, but it's really just the person and the way the scene was done (it's from a movie, obviously) that made me make an avatar of it.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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