Thread: closing your eyes in a LD

Yeah i've had this. Best not to close your eyes really kind of sucks you out of the dream, best to stay involved with whats going on around you.

Originally Posted by muskee

I'll never close my eyes again :c

You're placing an unnecessary limit on yourself. Just because it woke you up twice doesn't mean it will wake you up every time. It might never wake you up again. Don't stop doing something just because it didn't work the way you wanted it to. There is no true consistency in dreams. If doing something wakes you up just shrug it off and try something else, but do not tell yourself that you'll never do it again. Doing so will only cement the idea that you can't do it and make it more likely that you still won't be able to do it in the future.

I like to dive into the ground to change the dream scenery. There was a period of time when every time I dove into the ground I ended up waking up. It happened at least a few times in a row so I temporarily changed my method of scene changing. After a while I tried the ground diving again and it worked just like it did in the past.

Doubt and negativity serve a purpose in real life. They help us recognize our limits and how to maneuver around them.

Be very careful with negative beliefs carried over into your dream world. They serve no useful purpose in the dream world. Doubt has no place in dreams because there are no limits to be learned. Allowing it in is a bad habit that can be hard to break. Real dream control is not about learning what you can and can not do or even how to do something. It's about understanding fully that you can do it. You are always capable of doing what you want. But you also have to accept that things won't always work the way you want. There is no lesson to be learned from failure in a lucid dream. Failure is meaningless.

Hope this makes sense.

Originally Posted by dms111

You're placing an unnecessary limit on yourself. Just because it woke you up twice doesn't mean it will wake you up every time. It might never wake you up again. Don't stop doing something just because it didn't work the way you wanted it to. There is no true consistency in dreams. If doing something wakes you up just shrug it off and try something else, but do not tell yourself that you'll never do it again. Doing so will only cement the idea that you can't do it and make it more likely that you still won't be able to do it in the future.

I like to dive into the ground to change the dream scenery. There was a period of time when every time I dove into the ground I ended up waking up. It happened at least a few times in a row so I temporarily changed my method of scene changing. After a while I tried the ground diving again and it worked just like it did in the past.

Doubt and negativity serve a purpose in real life. They help us recognize our limits and how to maneuver around them.

Be very careful with negative beliefs carried over into your dream world. They serve no useful purpose in the dream world. Doubt has no place in dreams because there are no limits to be learned. Allowing it in is a bad habit that can be hard to break. Real dream control is not about learning what you can and can not do or even how to do something. It's about understanding fully that you can do it. You are always capable of doing what you want. But you also have to accept that things won't always work the way you want. There is no lesson to be learned from failure in a lucid dream. Failure is meaningless.

Hope this makes sense.

wow, this really makes sense, thanks for your message!

My eyes start blinking when I am waking up. I used to hate it, but now I just use it as a way to remember to stabilize. Last dream my eyes started blinking and everything was blurry. I was in the middle of reading so I got frustrated. I rubbed my eyes and then opened my eyes and I was fine. You can do anything you want in a dream. I just realized that I was doing 2 things people say are impossible or not good to do in lucids. Reading and blinking.

With the first and only LD I've ever had, it ended the dream when I closed my eyes. It may have involved going too fast and a rising heartbeat too.

You can get more excited in later dreams after you get more. Good luck on more lucids.

Are you staying here for good to learn lucid dreaming?

I agree with dms111, that you should not put restraints on your abilities in lucids and you should not start believing that something will happen, because then it will.

But with closing your eyes-
people usually wake up, because they lose contact with a dream and dream stops existing and you may by accident open your real eyes.

This varies with many people I think. I've closed my eyes in dreams and not woke up.

Closing my eyes in dreams is nearly a guarantee that I'll wake up. Believe it or not, not blinking in your dreams isn't that hard to do. I don't even concentrate on not blinking, I just happen to not do it on my own. Then if something happens that makes me close my eyes or I consciously close them, I wake up. That, or I lose my dream and wind up in a void of nothing. One time I was in the void of nothing for like 5 minutes and it was pretty cool, but after that I always wake up a few seconds after being in the void, a lot of times in sleep paralysis for a few seconds. The nice thing about this is it allows me to DEILD really easily, as I am still in the dreaming mind state and I haven't moved around much--a lot of the time I can wake up like this and not even move at all, I can remain laying with my eyes closed and get SP again or directly enter a dream.

Originally Posted by muskee

well,This week i've had 2 LD's where I tried to focus on something while closing my eyes but when I opened them I actually opened my Real eyes =( so I woke up...
does this happen to anyone else? I'll never close my eyes again :c

Oddly enough, a while back I was in a LD and I actually tried it several times intentionally to see what really happens. Like you, I had previous experiences where closing my eyes resulted in waking up. The result was this: it's a dream destabilizer (presumably because it cuts off one of your senses). If you're careful, you can use it to change the dream scene rapidly. If you're not careful, you'll wake up.