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      Quote Originally Posted by lenscaper View Post
      Well.......During my days I sit in front of a computer screen with a bluetooth headset on in a nice private office. With big windows and a huge ficus tree. It is a very personalized space. I have a small bright pink post-it sticky stuck to the phone and every time I glance at it I ask myself if this is a dream. Then I look closely at all the things close around me and try to see details that I have missed in the past. I'll get up and walk around while I am taking calls and watch my hands. I have started telling myself over and over that this is a dream...just the one I am awake in. That may be the important part...it feels right.

      It has become a pretty constant frame of mind....almost as if I am living in a reality check. I am fortunate to be in such a controlled environment for 10 hours each day.

      These daytime exercises, along with the night time lucidity, are really changing my perspective of "reality"....in a good way.
      I am loving this thread. What you write is really inspiring to me, because I'm also working hard during the day for this. My frequency of LD has also increased but I'm still not at the phase of having stable controllable lucid dreams. Nevertheless I do feel I've made progress.

      I'm very interested in the part where you say that you are at a computer. I am in a very similar situation as you: I work from home, on the computer (as a computer programmer). How do you manage to stay aware on the computer? I find it really hard. I get very easily absorbed (I've been programming for at least 20 years). I find that working on the computer and being aware can be a bit contradictory, or maybe just very hard?

      Do you have some advice? I would like to somehow integrate practicing awareness and "this is a dream" while on the computer too. That's the part where I lose track the most. When I get up from the computer, I'm a bit in a haze that I need to work on getting out of by either socializing, taking a break, a walk or doing something else. Meditation also works but the formerly stated activities work much better. Being in nature is golden though! I wish my office was in the wild

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      I'm glad this thread has been helpful to you, gbbr........it has been incredibly helpful to me as well to be able to write like this.

      Quote Originally Posted by gbbr View Post
      I'm very interested in the part where you say that you are at a computer.
      Well, my situation is very different from yours. I work as the Technical Director for a building material manufacturer. We make a very unique building board that is used for sound control in construction so I spend my days answering email and phone questions about sound control and researching all sorts of things. While I do sit in front of my computer a lot, I also walk around my office talking to folks and there is a lot of time between calls and emails.....so I get to research all things lucid a lot as well.

      I would like to somehow integrate practicing awareness and "this is a dream" while on the computer too. That's the part where I lose track the most. When I get up from the computer, I'm a bit in a haze that I need to work on getting out of by either socializing, taking a break, a walk or doing something else.
      I get that way as well at times. There is an excellent exercise in the Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep manuscript (page 39) where he speaks of balancing the prana. I do that when I get hazy and it really works. Every time you get up from your computer for a break look for details that you maybe walk by all the time but never notice. Look at them and see them as in a dream..........odd things like finding your reflection in a brass door knob or finding shapes in the grain pattern of a wood door. Stand in one place with your eyes closed and be extremely conscious of your body for a minute or two. I find that total body awareness like that leads to a feeling of pure presence (I do that at night as I fall asleep too). Then try to float....or to let the floor fall away from you. Then go back to work. These are some of the things I do during my day in the office.

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      Being in nature is golden though! I wish my office was in the wild
      Getting out into nature is an excellent way to find the peace that will help to foster calm and focused lucidity. I am exploring the Japanese discipline of Shinrin-yoku (Forest Bathing) on my weekends.
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      Thank you for this! I'm going to try that out, I really like the idea of walking around looking for details.

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      Trying Too Hard

      Sometimes it feels as if the harder I seek lucidity the more I fail at it. Ardent effort must inevitably result in many failures and our consciousness tends to highlight failures over successes in those meta-cognitive moments. Those highlighted failures become ingrained seeds for more failure I think.

      I am working on letting the lucid flow happen around me for a while. Sometimes that is not so easy, though.

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      Hi Lenscaper. I had my first LD back in 2004 and have been pursuing it off and on since then with varying degrees of success. It can be extremely frustrating at time. Sacrificing a good night's sleep with no results. Getting lucid and immediately waking up. Trying technique after technique which don't give reliable results. If you look at my signature it tells the story, I've had years where I worked so hard and years where I just gave up. Yet, I keep coming back to it because some lucid dreams can be so amazing. I've woken up from some amazing LDs and feel euphoric for several days after. That is what keeps driving me to find a method that I can stick with for the rest of my life, and gives me good results. I'm not greedy, I would settle for 1 good LD every 2 weeks.

      I wish you great success in your LD pursuits. If you have great success keep everyone informed on your methods.
      Total LDs (some very brief) = 2004: 4 * 2005: 18 * 2006: 16 * 2007: 2 * 2008: 0 * 2009: 0 * 2010: 1 * 2011: 12 * 2012: 3 * 2013: 1 * 2014: 6 * 2015: 1 * 2016: 0 * 2017: 18 * 2018: 3 * 2019: 0 (so far)

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      Hey Tygar...thanks so much for your support! Your story is good inspiration. It is so good for me to hear from experienced folks like you in my quest to integrate lucidity in my life.

      You are so right about how that euphoria of a lucid event drives us on. I am having success already with such clarity and presence in all of my dreams now with a strong LD event every couple of weeks. They are short but oh so sweet!
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      lenscaper - are you keeping a record of your LDs? If so, be sure to post them in the dream journal. I really enjoy reading other people's LDs. It is inspiring and often very entertaining.
      Total LDs (some very brief) = 2004: 4 * 2005: 18 * 2006: 16 * 2007: 2 * 2008: 0 * 2009: 0 * 2010: 1 * 2011: 12 * 2012: 3 * 2013: 1 * 2014: 6 * 2015: 1 * 2016: 0 * 2017: 18 * 2018: 3 * 2019: 0 (so far)

      Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives. ~William Dement

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      I have kept a pretty good DJ in general since I began this journey six months or so ago and my strong lucid events are labeled nicely for me to go back to.

      What's really cool to me is that I still have seriously clear memories and images of the ten or twelve strongest ones. I find that I experience a lot of what I might call low grade lucidity but those strong LDs that you drop right into or that come from sudden dream sign recognition can REALLY stick with you in vivid detail.

      I have not taken advantage of our forum DJ section, however.
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      I was going to make new thread, but thanks to Sageous mentioning about falling in the DC trap, I'm going to post it here.

      As one that is very curious about DCs as me, I tried to make a lot of contacts as possible for this reason with them and finally reach a breakthrough. My theory was proved true by series of positive experiments. One of them is type of a dream that I started to have recently, it is like remote viewing, but instead in dream world. In these I don't have a body, it's like my consciousness is floating around and other people/DC are controling the dream and most of the time I have more than one perspective(what do you think how can I have more than one viewpoint at the same time).

      In the last dream I saw two DCs arguing about "is this the real world or not" or so I thought. The more I listened to their conversation, the more I realized that one of them was in fact a dreamer. He was gaining lucidity little by little and started to question the reality itself. In the last moments, he say to the DC that this world maybe is not real and maybe he was dreaming, but the DC traped him in 'another reality' using that precise moment, he(DC) told him that this is indeed a fake world, but instead of a dream he told him this holographic projected reality on top of the real one and in fact they are still in real world. With that explanation the dreamer lost the little lucidity he has and his dream continue as non-lucid. They continue to talk how they are gonna escape this holographic prison as they walked away from my viewpoint.
      I will write a further reference but I need to synthesize it correctly first.

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      A lot to ponder over in your post. StarSeeker, and I hope to learn from the comments that come. But, if you don't mind, I'd like to pick up on one aspect of it because it has caused an important realization for me.

      Quote Originally Posted by StarSeeker View Post
      One of them is type of a dream that I started to have recently, it is like remote viewing, but instead in dream world. In these I don't have a body, it's like my consciousness is floating around
      Pretty much all of my pre-LD dreams were like that I think.....only occasionally would I be in a body and observing the dream. But in the first week after I was drawn into the world of LD something happened, that thanks to your post, I now see as very important. After a night of intense HI I went into a dream where I was flying high above a stream at the edge of a field. Standing there in the middle of the stream, far below me, was a figure. As I entered that dream high above that stream I said, for the first time ever, "This is a dream", and I flew down and became that body.

      The coolest thing is that the very next night, after more intense HI, I had the EXACT SAME dream......same exact stream setting......except there was no figure standing in it. In that second dream I walked up the stream to a pool, entered the pool and laid down on the bottom looking up at the blue sky.

      Since those two dreams, in every single dream I have had I have been in my body in the dream. I think that establishing that body connection has been an important thing for me. SO much to ponder here........

      Thanks for your post, StarSeeker.
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      I'm sorry lenscaper, I'll have to postpone my report, because I'm in the middle of important mind experiment and I will need a little more time. In meanwhile I have something interesting to post, because of new technique or one that I finally complete, this morning I had whole 12 lucid dreams in a span of 3 hours. The method is strange but easy to perform, before I was doing it incidentally, but with little help of a Guru, I finally completed it. The Guru words to me was "Let go of your Ego, stop trying to control everything, including death, everyone dies, that is the natural course of the universe. You have to surrender, only then you will be able to use your full potential."

      So here go the steps: Best time to try this is in the morning after al least 5 hour of sleep. You can use alarm or the natural aproach. The hard part is that you need to get closer to the sleep moment as much as possible and then begin next steps, but you don't need to do a WILD aproach. You gonna know the right moment when you start to see dream images, simply focus your vision on one of them, but don't focus on the entire image, only on a single object, preferred on small object, like a book, sign, bottle of any kind. Something that has tiny details on it, now focus on these details, like zooming your vision(if you know how sniper rifle work, when change the zoom from 2x to 4x to 8x), try to make them clear as you can, but don't try too hard, everything must be performed in calm yet focused way. Now that you zoomed in on that object catch him with your dream hands, they don't need to be visible, it is more like you catch him with your mind. When you do this the object will turn into a anchor and your dream hands in a rope, metaphorically speaking. Now just fall asleep while holding the object, surrender to the dream, you gonna feel a suck in sensation and you will get directly in the dream, it's working like a WILD. The dream that come is a fleeting, so you need to stabilize him fast.

      Tip: If you can't see any dream images you always can make a simple visualization of the preferred object and then start the focusing part, most of the time I'm doing this, because visualization is simpler for me than waiting to happen on it's own.

      Good Luck^^


      p.s. In one of the LD, everything around me was full of DCs, it was a huge plaza. For the first time I didn't care at all, I strip all my clothes and run around in Awe
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      That is fantastic success, StarSeeker!!

      I really like that technique. I have had HIs in my hands a few times but my inexperience kept me from doing anything with them and the moment was fleeting. The idea of focusing in on a detail sounds excellent.
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      Building The Foundation

      My nightly practice seems to be boiling down to a distinct set of specific exercises as I get closer to my goal of developing a nightly protocol that allows me to get the sleep I need while still achieving lucidity as often as possible. During the week I really only have seven hours to work with. Here is what I have been doing:

      1. As soon as I lay down I begin to reach for a calm and stable place through breathing and meditation while lying on my back. I pretty much can now will my body to sleep within five minutes or so.

      2. I always wake for the first time in 3 - 4 hours. At this time I concentrate on feeling as much clarity and presence as I can....depending on how sleepy I am. On a good night I will have already had sufficient cleansing and restful sleep to allow for 10 - 15 minutes of this kind on introspection. When sleep closes back in I immediately roll over and let it.

      3. My third waking generally comes 1 -2 hours before I need to get up. This is the time to make a move on lucidity. If the first two sessions were strong I will wake feeling stable, clear and present in the moment......I will then get up for a few minutes. Upon returning to bed I finally engage in some real LD technique, such as strong lucid intention or perhaps SSILD. That last hour or so before I must rise is my time for lucidity so I try to let sleep come back again fairly quickly in more of a DILD type transition. On weekends, when I can sleep in a bit, this becomes a time for prolonged HI and a possible WILD.

      As I work more and more within the above framework, I find myself more and more entering a dream scene and taking charge of the scene. I redirect DCs as well as the plot. There is not often an "AHA! moment" of dream recognition but instead there is a general feeling of awareness of the dream. For instance, last night I looked at a very obvious dream sign and kind of chuckled a little as I went on with what I was doing. What is interesting is that I always know when it is time to exit the dream.....I never oversleep.

      I feel as though I am establishing a natural base state of lucidity through these very basic practices. I feel like I am building a very strong foundation.
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