Thread: Rant and Rave, Cry and Complain

Originally Posted by Erii

Been awake for like 23 hours <_< it's 9:30am and i'm tired xD probs gonna sleep all day.
Also my dog has some skin tags all around his arm pit area :O this breed is prone to skin things and usually in late spring/early summer he gets some bumps and what not on is stomach. Does anyone knowledgeable of dogs here know if skin tags are harmful? We'll take him to the vet soon so they can remove them, i'm just sort of worried It's just all bumpy, like 1 is semi hard...ugh
and I've had a headache for the past 9 hours xD

They aren't harmful. They are uncomfortable for the dog though. And can be painful/irritating.
Definitely should get them checked out.
And *BAD ERII!* for still not having your sleep on schedule!

Originally Posted by fuzzion

Basicly I just finished an amazing visual novel that is all about romance and I'm kinda, hmmm wouldn't say depressed, but in a big thinking moment of my life.

I could write a big rant about it but I guess it would be long and I don't know how readable it would be but if you find the subject interesting maybe I will.

But as I said I played this amazing visual novel and they did everything right with the music, character development and the story. Before I played this I just thought that when you "loved" someone it was just that you still felt the emotion of when you are with a friend but with the hormones talking at the same time.

I think I experienced close to true love for this fictional character (yeah yeah). It was so amazing and if there is something like an emotional high then I think I got it there. The thing that makes me sad... Is that that feeling, of true love that is... You will probably never experience it in the real world.
That's what I think atleast and I'm pretty sad about it as it's one of the most magical thing that I felt. There is to many variables to click, to many senses to please.

For one the character that I had an romance with was for me an very interesting person (she was a free spirit, didn't talk much but, talked in riddles and tried to reach out with art) not only that but she got the cute look and the story that binds you together is very sad but leads to joy (I love that path: you meet --> feels some connection --> sad part --> joy)
Also it plays some amazing soundtrack too that increase the emotional feelings even more.

That's why I don't think that real life love can't be as good as it could be. That's probably why I won't find romance ever since, I will have these expectations from now on. I guess I'm fine with it as I won't live in a lie and not knowing how good it can be.

This alone made me start with lucid dreaming again because I wanna try creating that kind of place and see if I can feel these emotions again.

TL;DR : I just think that you can't get the same "love" feeling from a real life relationship as in a fiction and it makes me sad. What do you think? What's your experience?

I think you have at least got the intelligence to see that that is not possible IRL.
These novels/movies/songs etc are all a dramatisation of real life.
As Hitchcock said, "What is drama, after all, but life with the boring bits cut out".

The creator of the art designs it to have the highest emotional impact.
Life does not do that and you have to suffer through a lot of boring shit (although you can make everything not boring, but that's beside the point), it's not all romance.

The biggest mistake most people make is to confuse symbols and fantasy with reality. That's why people are unhappy and can easily be pushed off their love perch at the smallest hitch.
Coz they expect to be some sort of never ending trip.

So yes, life is not the same as fantasy. In the short term, it's also not as good. That's just a fact.

But.... say you were a god and you wanted some way to spend your time. I think if you meditate on this a bit, you would
realise that life is far more interesting. What it lacks in constant pleasure, it makes up for in fascinations and variation. And unpredictability!

Originally Posted by tommo

They aren't harmful. They are uncomfortable for the dog though. And can be painful/irritating.
Definitely should get them checked out.
And *BAD ERII!* for still not having your sleep on schedule!

Even if they're a little hard (they're not huge though)? [sorry that sounded kind of perverted if you take it that way...] there's just like an area on both sides of his arm with all of them around it :c definitely will get it checked out though , thanks
and yeah sleep schedule definitely fucked up xD fell asleep at like 9:45am until 5:30pm so i'll be sleeping in the day time and awake all hours of the night from now on! oh well life will be interesting

I've always thought of "hard" skin tags as moles.

I'm ranting because Dream Journals are down (for entries). Also, the weather has been wet and the hay is chest high, so I've been missing my daily walk... which means the dogs have been missing theirs as well. Meesha has so much energy she's running throughout the house like a lunatic lol

Cuddlebug seems fine. He's staying in his container though lol. I guess he figures it's safest in there.

Oh yeah, can't remember if I mentioned this already but... Tiny had 4 kittens in our AC ducts. It's the weirdest thing in the world because the kittens have only been known to us for a week or so, but they're already trying to eat dry food and they're completely tame. We've had kittens born in closets etc and they were feral when we became aware of them. I'm not complaining about this new bunch being so lovable, but what the heck?

The vent covers are missing from a lot of the vents so the cats travel freely from one end of the trailer to the other and pop their heads out. Meesha is so rough with them we have to lock her up in my room sometimes.
And all of them needed to be rescued one time because the ducting sags under the trailer at one point and they fell into it and couldn't get out
Also, the kittens smell of filth, so I can only imagine how disgusting the vents are. We'll never be able to use Central heat or air again without replacing it all first

cough*fart*sneeze*sniffle-sniffle


That's what it sounds like at my house.


Please let my kids feel better today!


Sigh...

boo. woke up at 5am this morning for work, after about 4 hours of sleep. first shift is nice every now and then, but i'm glad i don't have to do this every day.

anyway, one of the nice things about 1st shift is that i get home when the sun's still up. got out even earlier today (at 12:15) because only one line was running which means i had barely at work and was going crazy the whole time. but, i was stoked to get home and go for a ride. except on the way home it started pouring... was beautiful out all morning. now the sky's black and it's dumping buckets. fuck you weather, 3 weekends in a row you screwed me over. i really want to get up to the state park to tackle the tech trails, but we've been getting way too much rain. it'll just be a big mud pit until we get a good dry week.


oh, and i'm out of toilet paper.

Originally Posted by fuzzion

TL;DR : I just think that you can't get the same "love" feeling from a real life relationship as in a fiction and it makes me sad. What do you think? What's your experience?

I've sort of gone on a tangent about a similar experience here, sorry for that.
I've experienced depression as well after reading novels that are so exciting they make real life seem gray and boring. Not so much over wishing that fantasy love were real, but more over all the events and excitement happening. I think the main issue was that the characters in the stories had important goals and purpose in their lives. They had to do things that really matter. And what are the goals of people in real life? Go to school. Earn a degree. Get a job. Raise a family. Live in a cabin in the woods. Whatever the individual person decides. And short-term goals are even more boring. Get ready to go to a family gathering. Go grocery shopping. Finish your physics assignment. In contrast to the goals of fantasy characters, like saving the world, defeating some evil dictator with magic powers that only you have, seeking vengeance on the person who killed your mother, etc. these real goals seem so boring and pointless. It was like there was a void in me that needed to be filled with some purpose. The feeling was so bad for me while I was 12 and reading Harry Potter books that I hated real life. I longed for the world to somehow be real and for a time I made it my goal to see if it was, and I could not confront the fact that it wasn't. Real life seemed to me like living in a dungeon sorting pieces of hay for the rest of my life would seem to a normal person. It was really, really bad and I was pretty much constantly depressed for about a year and would spend all my free time re-reading the books. I still get depressed occasionally after reading some amazing book, but it's nowhere near as extreme.

Now, about the love thing. Are you sure that what you're thinking isn't lust? Because lust is an incredible real feeling that is very similar to what you describe. I'm not even talking about sexual desire, although that's often intertwined with it. It's more of an excitement and curiosity about the other person, where every moment with them feels incredible, but it's hard to describe. It will happen during the first stages of a relationship and will last for a few weeks, maybe even months. But after a while it does fade. The only way to preserve it, I think, would be to seek out a new partner every time the luster from the current relationship starts to fade. It's usually only after you know a person really well (and that can take months or years) that 'love' sets in, which isn't anywhere near as exhilerating. Actually, I don't like any of these terms because there are too many exceptions and states in between, so I'm talking very generally. But my point is that the feeling you experienced is possible in real life, and exists in new relationships between people who are really attracted to one another, if I'm understanding it correctly.

The only thing that I know would work to ease your depression about this would be to stop reading that type of thing, or to find a significant other in real life and determine for yourself whether it is possible to feel it.

^ I think infatuation is the word you're looking for.

I feel like an irresponsible dickhead for missing my court date.

Melanie. Hope your kids get better quickly!!

I never could read romance novels. They're so unrealistic they tick me off to an extreme lol

I'm ranting today because I couldn't fall asleep until 7AM and I missed my Congregation meeting I slept until 12:30PM but I'm still very sleepy.

I need to call Wal-mart to see if my insurance will cover any of my prescription for Provigil. Without insurance, 30 pills at 200mg each cost over $700. If my insurance still refuses to cover any of it, I'm going to have to keep abusing caffeine.
But that stuff is finally aggravating my anxiety and I'm having VERY mild "hallucinations" (mostly auditory whenever I'm laying down to sleep or waking up... so they're not real hallucinations).
I'm also annoyed that I'm a "dream enthusiast" and I can't remember the term for those so-called hallucinations lol

I'm also at war with some houseflies that have made their way into my bedroom. Like last year, these suckers bite (errrr... pinch?) !
Ugh... and now a spider is crawling across my ceiling toward me lol... and he fell I tried to squish him but he disappeared under a shelf...

Other than that, it's a wonderfully quiet and cool day. I've been washing my blankets and hanging them up outside.

"It's just Greek yogurt, it's different," she says.

"You won't get food poisoning," she says.

Umm... Wow. My step dad just beat my mom last night and she is already back together with him. Of course she doesn't realize why I'm angry that she has him around me and my little sister. I tell her that she doesn't care about us and that makes her mad, she just replies yes I do shut up. I asked her to give me one example that showed she cared and she said that she can't sleep when he is gone and she wants to sleep tonight... Umm wow you really do care right? Then her next reason was that she buys me stuff. Well if this drug addicted man goes crazy and beats me at least I know that I have an iPad and nice clothes.

I'm not scared of the man though, I could hold up well in a fight with him. It's my mom and little sister I'm worried about.

Then call the police and do something about it. It is called domestic violence. Report it. You will be doing your family a favor.

Why does every cashier that checks my items out at Walmart have to be a complete douche? Despite what you've all seen here, I'm actually a very friendly person, especially when I'm a customer. I've worked in customer service jobs and I know what all the assholes are like-- and even when the douche behind the counter deserves to be treated like crap, I'm still fucking nice because I get to go home, they don't. I understand how people can be, but it's just bullshit that I have to put up with that when I don't deserve it.

You know what's really interesting? They're nice until I pull out a WIC check (basically food stamps) AND a vision card (food stamps). Hey dude, I'm fucking sorry for accepting the government's help. What you don't fucking know about me, is I'm NOT one of the vast majority of welfare people ABUSING the fucking system! I'm actually working my way to doing without it! I don't need to be treated like crap.

It's not like I'm buying doritos and pepsi and other bullshit. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but at least then I would understand being given the stink eye. And most of everything I buy is FOR MY SON! Anything for myself I either do without or buy the cheapest version of it.

Anyway, seriously. I feel like crap everytime I leave walmart because stereotyping assholes won't give me a damn smile for once. I wouldn't even go there if there was anything fucking else. one of the worst corporations ever. everybody likes monopoly. I can't wait to see it all burn down. People are so blind and they just can't use their minds to help them see through the bullshit. PEOPLE matter more than MONEY. Asshole.

Why are you on food stamps?

Also, most people don't abuse the system.

And if you don't like Wal-Mart, don't shop there. You can't complain about them and keep doing business and expect things to actually change.

I used food stamps a few years ago when I was first on my own.

I'm on food stamps because my family doesn't make enough to pay bills and pay for food. I don't see why that matters. It's kind of obvious why someone's on food stamps in the first place isn't it?

And you're right, maybe it isn't the majority of people who abuse it, but there ARE people who do and I've seen the other end where people mock welfare mothers. My own family does it all of the time and it drives me crazy.

Like I said, I wouldn't go there if I had another option. I keep doing business with them because I need to feed myself and my son.

Is that good enough for you?

I can complain about bad customer service. That's what this whole thread is about.

Originally Posted by Suena

I'm on food stamps because my family doesn't make enough to pay bills and pay for food. I don't see why that matters. It's kind of obvious why someone's on food stamps in the first place isn't it?

I know the guidelines and standards for WIC and EBT. I was just curious because you discussed abuse of the system and stated you weren't a part of it, yet painted a broad brush of generalization stating that most people do abuse the system, which again, was wrong. Thus, I began to ask questions. This is a thread for ranting, is it not?

And you're right, maybe it isn't the majority of people who abuse it, but there ARE people who do and I've seen the other end where people mock welfare mothers. My own family does it all of the time and it drives me crazy.

Yes, I know people who abuse the system. I have friends that actually abused the system. Friends in college who would get ~ 300 bucks a month for groceries, go nuts on it, when they truly didn't need the assistance in the first place and were just taking advantage of what was being offered. I was eligible for this, (and I worked while I went to school full time in a double course load for two rigorous majors) yet never felt the need to get it, even though it cost me about everything I had to make ends meet, because in the end, there are people who needed it more, and secondly, I am prideful.

A serious question(s) and I'm not trying to be a dick because it goes along with people abusing the system:

The system itself needs to be re-evaluated, but I also hold people accountable for their own action(s). From my research and experience on the issue, the people who are in the program aren't doing themselves any favors and personal efficacy is the major problem. Like, people who have kids and continue to have kids when only one person works, or if both work, definitely don't have the job security or ability to be having children.

Example that I know in real-life: A girl under 20 who works part-time at a convenience store. Doesn't make more than 8 dollars an hour. Her boyfriend (not husband) works a job in retail that pays less than 10 dollars an hour. They have 4 kids. They get to take in ~ 900 dollars of food stamp assistance because they cannot make ends meet. Why is that societies greater problem to take care of? It is clear that they weren't prepared for children in the first place, now that becomes a burden on efficient citizens and other people who have to pay their way.

Why have a child if you know you cannot support it without government assistance? Is this not abuse of the system?

Do you work? Have you worked? If so, when was the last time you worked full-time?

What steps are you taking to get out of an enabling system?

The system is a problem, but so are the life decisions and ability of the people who are in it. The cycle of poverty is not an easy thing to get out of. I understand that, but I feel those are legitimate questions and concerns to have.

Like I said, I wouldn't go there if I had another option. I keep doing business with them because I need to feed myself and my son.

There are no other places where WIC and EBT are accepted in your area?

I can complain about bad customer service. That's what this whole thread is about.

Of course you can, but then you made an indictment on the corporation itself, yet will continue to shop there. Poor workers are a bad reflection of the company, but I'd be thankful that they actually accept WIC and EBT if there are truly no other options for you, because -- well, where would you be otherwise?

Just my two cents. And I'm not bashing you, I'm just curious about a few things.

Ick. I think I actually agree with warheit but I wont go into the politics because I am not looking for that when I go online, at least not at DV.

Originally Posted by Warheit

I know the guidelines and standards for WIC and EBT. I was just curious because you discussed abuse of the system and stated you weren't a part of it, yet painted a broad brush of generalization stating that most people do abuse the system, which again, was wrong.

That was kind of hilarious Suena, you have to admit that. You are sick of people thinking you're abusing welfare or whatever, and then you yourself assume "a vast majority" of people on welfare are just abusing it.

Usually when one is the subject of stereotyping, one knows how untrue it is.

Spoiler for nobody really cares about this shit:

I came here to get something off my chest and I’m done with that. You want to drag it out? Fine.

You are not curious. There is nothing I can say to you that will enlighten you. You know this; therefore, I will not indulge your “curiosity”. Instead, I’m just going to tell you exactly what I’m thinking about you. Some jerk off wants nothing more than to make me feel like shit for having a kid and being on welfare.

Now, now, don’t get wrong. I’m not trying to be a bitch, it comes out naturally when someone decides to give me their two cents and question the decisions I’ve made in my life without me even asking for their input. I know, I know, I didn’t need to ask for your input. You have a right to your opinion, but so do I.

As far as I know, you may not be trying to be a dick, but it sure doesn’t seem that way.

And who are you to hold anyone accountable for their actions?

Good for you, you didn’t get help even if you needed it. Woo. You’re such a good person, aren’t you?

No, really, that’s awesome that pulled a double course load to reach your dreams. But you know, not everyone can get off to such a good start in life. Not everyone is as strong and willful as you.

I’m doing what I can. I know I’ve made my bed, and I will sleep in it.

I am working towards a two-year degree—mostly online. Gee, that’s probably not good enough for you, either, is it?

I am so sorry for being a little irritated for being treated like shit and thinking I could just come here, vent, and feel a little better.

And God fucking forgive me for contradicting myself. It doesn’t mean anything except that I obviously hate the stereotype itself and that I’m human.

Thanks for calling me out. That’s cool, that’s fine, and even “hilarious” as Tommo so chooses to call it. Do you want a brownie? You want me to buy you dinner sometime? You want some coffee? A fucking donut? What do you want from me?

It may just be me, but this thread will really start to get crazy if we all just start ranting about other people's rants. Anyone else agree?

I guess I just didn't realize I was going to get interrogated for my rant. I was feeling pretty good after I got it off my chest, too. But I guess that's not why this thread exists.

Suena. Rant away. I know that feeling all too well, and I was one of the ones taking advantage to some degree. I could get an obscene amount of milk, for instance. We could never possibly use it all, so I traded it with relatives for diapers and gas money- items not covered by Food Stamps or WIC.
And one day I was beyond embarrassed and told myself I would never again shop at a certain store (I don't even recall which one now). I hadn't realized my check had expired and the looks and snide remarks flung my way actually left me in public tears (I do NOT cry in public *sigh*)
I was last on assistance back in 1998 or so. The system makes it almost impossible to get off of needing them. You can never get ahead. It always felt like if my [ex] hubby worked extra shifts and earned $10. extra (for instance), we would be docked $30.


I agree- and have always felt- that the system needed a lot of work. But I don't think this is an appropriate thread to get into the personal reasons as to why someone accepts what help they can. It should be taken to Extended Discussions. Even if it's not meant to be- it does feel a bit like a personal attack. And if it's meant to sound that way, then perhaps keep it to yourself (or take it to ED or PM's).
/steps off soap box

My rant is that I cannot eat anything anymore without having to rush to the restroom My p-doc ran my blood a month ago or so. My protein is a little low and I imagine that's why.
My thyroid was also low which might help explain why I've put on 50 pounds in 10 years. Well, that and my soda addiction and my lack of any real exercise
I still haven't call Wally World to check on my Provigil. I guess I'll do that tomorrow when I go shopping.

Nothing in Warheit's posts indicates he was attacking you.

And occasionally someone is complaining about something and another person thinks that maybe they haven't thought about it enough, and they would benefit from some discussion rather than simple acknowledgement or enabling.

You should read about Socrates too.

Oh yes... I did not mean to forget you Dakotah!
What torture that must be for you!
Has he ever raised his hand in anger to you or your sister? Do you have any relatives to could call on for help? I'm sure you don't "want" to turn him in because then all sorts of people would get involved and possibly make things worse. But in the long run, they might be able to help a great deal.
You shouldn't have to carry all of this yourself though.
Is there some way you can record him when he's going off on your mom? Showing (or otherwise playing) it for her might help enlighten her.
Kicking his ass might help too, unless he goes all psycho in the end...



**EDIT**
Oh yeah... Tommo, I felt incredibly uncomfortable reading Warheits posts. Maybe you have to have been in that situation to completely understand and feel how those questions can make a person feel like scum- ESPECIALLY because it was done so publicly.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

Oh yeah... Tommo, I felt incredibly uncomfortable reading Warheits posts. Maybe you have to have been in that situation to completely understand and feel how those questions can make a person feel like scum- ESPECIALLY because it was done so publicly.

Oh, I get it. That's why I said to look in to Socrates.