Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

I read the book once and I'm reading again to do the tasks now, too.I just have to say: It's AMAZING! I thought I already knew almost everything about conscious entering a dream because I read almost anything related to it. But after the first chapters I realized how much I've been missing (Forum tutorials are WAY to short so you really can understand them). For Example I always tried Wild in the evening because I thought I could never wake up conscious. I'm now trying the tasks and already got 2 short lucids from the indirect techniques (AND 1 Dild because I thought of the book in my dream ). Thank you very much for sharing the information about the book!

i had read this book a while ago. i think its great and find it irritating that so many people are posting what amounts to "Yeah its the same ole crap, i've seen it before, why bother?" Jaded lucid dreamers, who would have thought it?

Most of it is basically a detailed course on getting OBEs with a slew of techniques that are different from every other OBE book I have read. The way he lays it out and breaks it down makes it pretty clear and easy to follow.

as mentioned most of the techniques are based upon staying still while awakening from sleep. he calls them 'indirect techniques.' one would not have to be dreaming and for most of them one doesn't have to do any sort of dream re-entry or visualizations. they are very 'mental-physical' techniques aimed at body separation and inducing OBE's, which are also useful for lucid dreaming.

i consider it different from your standard DEILD in that the DREAM EXIT part is not necessary, though it is wasteful to split hairs over this, and one could conceivably simply call them variations. I also consider many of the techniques he talks about to be variations of FILD's, basically the perceived tiny motion of body parts until separation.

my greatest issue with these techniques is that i could never really wake up without moving, though i tried to practice it and condition myself. i plan on re-reading and re-trying some of these in the near future however.

It's very amusing watch people with a common goal get caught up in a silly semantics argument.

Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

It's very amusing watch people with a common goal get caught up in a silly semantics argument.

I sometimes find it amusing too. I consider lucid dreaming an art that requires strict attention to detail and must be approached with a scientific attitude. Ignoring these principles is the reason why there are so many threads and posts on this forum concerning failure. It is clear that a lot of new members fail on their first few attempts because of a lack of knowledge of the dry, hard scientific facts for achieving lucidity whilst dreaming. However, forum fighting is counterproductive when two individuals won't back down!

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I have posted that I have had success with this in non REM sleep which means that it cannot be a DEILD method. Indirect Techniques are exactly the same as Direct techniques. If Direct Techniques can be used at any time of the day then this illustrates that this isn't a DEILD method. If you can post a link for a DEILD method from this forum that can be used at any time of the day without the need to exit sleep then I will apolgise to you.

As I've said before, the phase of sleep doesn't particularly matter, nor does reentry, or the state consciousness before waking. I'll refer you to the first post I made on this thread for my main case, which you've only served to validate.

But since there's a chance you'll have trouble connecting two and two, the definition I gave applies to everything the author recommends beginners start with. Hence he's teaching DEILD.

The transitional techniques taught are the proverbial WILD tool-kit, which can be applied in any WILD attempt.

I mean, I'm surprised this isn't blatantly obvious.

Edit: Also, boom. I use that for DEILD, but it works equally well for your standard WILD. Or, if you thinks that's too conceited of me: this also works for DEILDs.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

This may be the case for you but for the vast majority of people it is absolutely crucial to develop dream recall. Because of this fact DEILD requires training to succeed. Explain to me why 50% of Mr. Raduga's students have an OBE or lucid within three days of practice without any prior dream training?

Because lucids are easy to remember, DEILD is a simple and effective technique for beginners (especially with a tool-kit), and he teaches it well?

Again, the pattern is pretty clear.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I don't as I have been researching this subject for twenty one years by experts in this field.

You've just proven the point I was making.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I will when you clearly haven't read this thread properly or the books.

The hypocrisy here is actually kinda funny.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Your vulgar language only serves to illustrate your immaturity and lack of knowledge concerning the subject.

I hoped it'd serve to point our how ridiculous it is to consecutively copy/paste the same poorly formed argument three times while simultaneously failing to acknowledge and address any points made.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Then explain to me how I was able to have success during non REM sleep?

I've addressed this. No need to repeat myself, right?

Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

It's very amusing watch people with a common goal get caught up in a silly semantics argument.

Seriously, this is hilarious. ^.^

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

As I've said before, the phase of sleep doesn't particularly matter.

You can't have a DEILD in non REM sleep. You clearly don't understand that you can only dream in REM sleep.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Because lucids are easy to remember.

How can you have lucid dreams if you can't remember your dreams in the first place. Naturally occuring lucid dreams without any prior training or desire to have them is rare. Another fact that you are unaware of. To prove my point ask ten elderly people how many lucid dreams they have had in their lives. Many will ask you this question, "What's a lucid dream?"

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Actually, it serves to point our how ridiculous it is to consecutively copy/paste the same poorly formed argument three times while simultaneously failing to acknowledge and address any points made.

I have acknowledged all of your points and addressed them with facts, not assumption or hearsay.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Edit: Also, boom. I use that for DEILD, but it works equally well for your standard WILD. Or, if you thinks that's too conceited of me: this also works for DEILDs.

Your BOOM thread title is: Mzzkc's Comprehensive WILD Guide. And Billybob's tutorial is for WILD's too and not DEILD's.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Seriously, this is hilarious.

The hilarity is always pointing at the one who is making a fool of himself. You clearly can't construct valid arguments without backing them up so I am not saying anymore on the matter.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

You can't have a DEILD in non REM sleep. You clearly don't understand that you can only dream in REM sleep.

When you DEILD, you are awake. You don't need to be in REM to dream. You said yourself that this technique worked in NREM sleep while using an alarm which is basically CAN-WILDing, an alternative to DEILD.

"A dream is a succession of images, sounds or emotions that the mind experiences during sleep."

How can you have lucid dreams if you can't remember your dreams in the first place. Naturally occuring lucid dreams without any prior training or desire to have them is rare. Another fact that you are unaware of. To prove my point ask ten elderly people how many lucid dreams they have had in their lives. Many will ask you this question, "What's a lucid dream?"

Lucid dreams are, in fact, much easier to remember. Since you are actually in control of the dream and you are aware that you are dreaming, it is easier to remember, regardless of whether or not you regularly remember your non-lucid dreams. If you cannot remember your dreams, you should work on that before lucid dreaming anyways.

DEILD is essentially a WILD after ending a dream. I'll take Mzzkc's definition of WILDing and add one word to it.

"To fall BACK asleep, into a dream state, while retaining consciousness."

I think the book is pretty good though. He's just basically teaching WILD with an alternative form of DEILD. Didn't read all of it though.

EDIT 2:
Look up CrazyInsane's WILD tutorial (CAN-WILD). He even says it uses the same idea of DEILD, but it isn't Dream Exit.

Originally Posted by mikeac

DEILD is essentially a WILD after ending a dream. I'll take Mzzkc's definition of WILDing and add one word to it.

"To fall BACK asleep, into a dream state, while retaining consciousness."

I think the book is pretty good though. He's just basically teaching WILD with an alternative form of DEILD. Didn't read all of it though.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, forgot to say. DEILD isn't particularly hard to learn. It doesn't require 226 pages of reading.

Yes when one has a DEILD or WILD it is not done in sleep, REM sleep or N-REM sleep. By it's very definition sleep is a natural periodic suspension of consciousness. By me saying it worked in N-REM sleep I should have said it worked during two intervals of N-REM so thankyou for pointing out to me that I must be far more mindful of my use of language and not to be so hasty when someone enrages me. I have also learnt today that research at universities in recent years have discovered that we do definately dream in N-REM sleep. I am now the wiser for that and has opened a wider channel for study. My point right from the start, and still is, that this method is not about dream exit initiated lucid dreams, it is about pure WILD's, which they are as it is not necessary at all to have exited a dream to succeed. By its very definition a DEILD is saying that one has a lucid dream after immediately exiting a dream.

Lucid dreams are not always easy to remember. I can recall several instances where I have remembered having a lucid dream several days after having that lucid dream. This made me realise that I had to take my dream recall training far more seriously. The average person has very poor dream recall which is why for the average person they must cultivate dream recall to be successful with DEILD's. The average person couldn't have a DEILD in a few days as they won't remember having a dream that they have just exited from. If you ask the average person how many dreams they usually have every night they will say none. Mr. Raduga's method does not require any dream recall training at all as it is a method of having WILD's.

I think the book is far, far better than pretty good. Two have us have said that we have had a WILD in a matter of seconds within three days and someone else very close to achieving one. As I said from the start, that is phenomenal.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

You can't have a DEILD in non REM sleep. You clearly don't understand that you can only dream in REM sleep.

I'm glad you already caught yourself on this one.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

How can you have lucid dreams if you can't remember your dreams in the first place. Naturally occuring lucid dreams without any prior training or desire to have them is rare. Another fact that you are unaware of. To prove my point ask ten elderly people how many lucid dreams they have had in their lives. Many will ask you this question, "What's a lucid dream?"

Lucids dreams are exponentially easy to remember compared to normal dreams. I don't know the exact science behind it (still trying to find someone who does), but the activation of the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex probably has a lot to do with it. Since it does play a large role in enabling working memory.

And I don't know how we got on the topic of "naturally occurring lucid dreams" being rare. I thought we were talking about groups of students who deeply desired LDs and were given three days of training.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I have acknowledged all of your points and addressed them with facts, not assumption or hearsay.

You haven't addressed my main point yet (and you've skimmed over most of the others I've made). Which you've already agreed with, but refuse to admit. Namely, that the basic WILD method he teaches is as close to DEILD as it gets and the tool-kit of techniques he offers can be applied to any WILD. Fundamentally, that's what the book offers as far as WILDs go.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Your BOOM thread title is: Mzzkc's Comprehensive WILD Guide. And Billybob's tutorial is for WILD's too and not DEILD's.

Given that only two sets of LDs exist, DILDs and WILDs.

DEILDs can only be WILDs.
Therefore, if a technique can be applied to WILD, then the same technique can be applied to DEILD.

"How to WILD" is a technique that can be applied to WILD.
Therefore, "How to WILD" is a a technique that can be applied to DEILD.
QED

Originally Posted by mcwillis

The hilarity is always pointing at the one who is making a fool of himself. You clearly can't construct valid arguments without backing them up so I am not saying anymore on the matter.

Ouch, your personal attacks have cut me pretty deep, bro. I clearly have no choice but to bow before your superior argumentative abilities.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

You can't have a DEILD in non REM sleep. You clearly don't understand that you can only dream in REM sleep.

completely false.

This night I become conscious in a dream so it was a DILD, so I do sleep better with this pillow. In the dream I asked how to get more lucid drrams anytime I want and the answer I got was ''sleep more'' then I woke up after a pretty short lucid dream and wondered what the dc (dream character ment by that) because a dc is only a projection of your subconscious you. I moved alot in bed because I was in an uncomfortable position and then I tried to fall asleep consciously with indirect techniques, but when I closed my eyes I started to hear a different sound than I usually do when I listen in and I saw images infront of my eyes and it almost felt like I was rotating, then my alarm started to ring and it was over... I had slept for 12 hours. But my theory is if I go to bed very early one night in the week my rem sleep becomes longer for that night and when I wake up it will ne easier to use indirect techniques. This technique is called CILD (Cycle-adjust induced lucid dream) I think. I will try this out tonight and see if it works

hehe, let's not waste time for arguing about this any more. Why don't you, experiened lucid dreamers, give it a try and see if it works, then come back to evaluate your point?

personally, I found it's hard to "conscious awakening" without alarm, or not open my eyes upon awakening. Guest I should practice more.

Originally Posted by whitemagician91

personally, I found it's hard to "conscious awakening" without alarm, or not open my eyes upon awakening. Guest I should practice more.

From his experience of teaching this to others Mr. Raduga says that using an alarm reduces your chance of success by 50-75%. As he says, if you have a strong intent before going to sleep and practice you will wake up without movement. The reason for this is that too much external stimuli such as the noise from an alarm alters our state of mind too drastically upon awakening. When I first started out I did use a custom made alarm with a duration of ten seconds and a voice recording saying, 'Dont move'. It worked perfectly for waking without moving but the shock was too much so I trained myself to awaken without moving.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

From his experience of teaching this to others Mr. Raduga says that using an alarm reduces your chance of success by 50-75%. As he says, if you have a strong intent before going to sleep and practice you will wake up without movement. The reason for this is that too much external stimuli such as the noise from an alarm alters our state of mind too drastically upon awakening. When I first started out I did use a custom made alarm with a duration of ten seconds and a voive recording saying, 'Dont move'. It worked perfectly for waking without moving but the shock was too much so I trained myself to wake without moving.

I can reciprocate this from my own experiences. Strong intent before sleeping was how I first trained myself to recognize nightly awakenings, and I've successfully used that for a variety of other things including waking without moving. Furthermore, I've personally never had success using any sort of alarm (for the reason mcwillis has pointed out), so I'm inclined to agree natural awakenings are the way to go.

Ok I did not have a lucid dream on my third attempt =(
But this night I just fell asleep without using affirmations just to see if I still would wake up during the night, but I didn't. The next night I am going to start using affirmations again and hopefully I wake up this time.

I have read two of Raduga's books and found them to be enlightening. In fact I continue to use some of his "indirect techniques" and find success most of the time I use them.

This DREAM VIEWS forum provides a wonderful opportunity for those who seek to gain greater understanding and insight in developing their lucid dream skills. I have always firmly believed the idiom: "search all things, hold fast to that which is good". And that's why we are here - to learn and grow to advance and progress and to develop our abilities by discovering that which is useful.

Unfortunately there are those that would spend their time splitting hairs over what they feel to be ill defined terminology. Now, perhaps we can move on and build up and contribute rather than tear down and destroy...

Originally Posted by DukeDreamWalker

Unfortunately there are those that would spend their time splitting hairs over what they feel to be ill defined terminology. Now, perhaps we can move on and build up and contribute rather than tear down and destroy...

Yeah!

Frak those guys!

Them and their destruction.

Oh, they work just fine. I had 3 WILDs earlier today, during an afternoon nap, two of which used methods presented in the book (I would classify both as DEILDs). I don't think this has really been an argument on whether or not the techniques taught in the book work (they do), it's more of a semantic disagreement, which I feel is important to get out in the open so that proper associations can be made and progress can occur.

Edit: I realize that last sentence was poorly written, as it does not convey my meaning. To rephrase, I feel that placing techniques and methods in their proper sets allows for greater expansion of those tools. Not only do they gain a firm identity and basis for understanding, but they also benefit from every insight learned and all previous work accomplished in that branch of study. Pinning down fundamentals isn't harmful to progress, in fact, it's necessary to prevent needless traversals of a well worn evolutionary path.

no, you do not physically move at all, you just "try" to move something with your mind. like you arm. FILD you have to actually move.

I like the techniques suggested on the book, but Mr. Raduga focuses too much on OBE, which I am not interested in, and doesn't say how to, after applying some tecnique/s succesfuly, skip OBE and directly LD instead. Can someone give me a hint???

I'll post one indirect technique as an example:

PHANTOM WIGGLING (MOVEMENT)
Testing Individual Effectiveness

Immediately after waking from sleep, remain motionless,
eyes closed. Try to wiggle a part of the body for 3 to 5 seconds,
but without using any muscles. If nothing moves during the
attempt, try a different technique. If a sensation of wiggling
occurs, even in the slightest, continue to employ the technique,
striving to increase the range of movement as much as possible.
This technique should be performed very aggressively, not
passively. As soon as the range of movement nears or exceeds
four inches - which may take just several seconds - the following
situations may arise: one momentarily finds oneself somehow in
the phase, or the wiggled part of the body begins to move freely.
The occurrence of movement during practice of this technique
allows the practitioner to transition to a separation technique and
attempt to leave the body.
While practicing phantom wiggling, strong vibrations may
occur, amid which separation may be attempted. Sounds also
often arise, allowing the opportunity to practice listening in,
which can lead to phase entrance.
The phantom wiggling technique is not meant to produce
an imagined movement by a phantom body. The point of the
technique is to attempt the movement of a physical body part
without using muscular action. That is, the focus should rest upon
an internal intention of movement without physical action. When
the sensation occurs, it differs little from its real counterpart and
is often accompanied by heaviness and resistance. Generally,
there is very little range of movement at first, but with
concentrated effort the range of movement noticeably increases.
It does not matter which part of the body is used to
exercise phantom movement. It may be the whole body or just
one finger. Neither is the speed of the movement important.
Increased range of perceived movement is the aim of the
technique.

Training

To train the technique of phantom wiggling, relax a hand
for several minutes while lying down, eyes closed. Then,
aggressively envision the following hand movements, without
moving any muscles, for two to three minutes each: rotating, updown,
left-right, extending the fingers and drawing the fingers
together, clenching and unclenching a fist. No sensations will
occur at first. Gradually, the sensation of muscular action will
become so apparent that the perceived movement will be
indistinguishable from real movement. During the first training
attempts, practitioners are often tempted to open their eyes to see
if actual movement is occurring – that’s how real the sensation
feels.

Good. Now I have this problem. As soon as I awake, I open my eyes and start moving in bed, to change positions and not get stiff. How I prevent myself from doing this? I doing unconscously. When I remember I shouldn't have moved or opened my eyes it is too late. Some idea?

Sorry for the long winded post.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

I like the techniques suggested on the book, but Mr. Raduga focuses too much on OBE, which I am not interested in, and doesn't say how to, after applying some tecnique/s succesfuly, skip OBE and directly LD instead. Can someone give me a hint???

Im not interested in OBE's either. My lucid dreams just happen as described in my experience at the start of this thread. The phantom wiggling technique that you cppied into your post says, "one momentarily finds oneself somehow in the phase". That means that you may find yourself in a lucid dream or an OBE.

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

Good. Now I have this problem. As soon as I awake, I open my eyes and start moving in bed, to change positions and not get stiff. How I prevent myself from doing this? Some idea?

I may be wrong about this but it seems from what you have said that you haven't read up to page 40 as that is where the instructions for not moving upon awakening are. If you haven't read the textbook yet I would strongly suggest not skipping through the book to page 40 as you will miss vital information that will save you from making mistakes that will arrest your progress.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Im not interested in OBE's either. My lucid dreams just happen as described in my experience at the start of this thread. The phantom wiggling technique that you cppied into your post says, "one momentarily finds oneself somehow in the phase". That means that you may find yourself in a lucid dream or an OBE.



I may be wrong about this but it seems from what you have said that you haven't read up to page 40 as that is where the instructions for not moving upon awakening are. If you haven't read the textbook yet I would strongly suggest not skipping through the book to page 40 as you will miss vital information that will save you from making mistakes that will arrest your progress.

First of all let me thank you for opening a thread about this. After seeing your post in "CrazyInsane's WILD Tutorial" I immediately downloaded the guide and began reading. I've been practicing and have come across an interesting fact: my most common form of 'phasing' is the movement one. I feel like I'm spinning or (as was the case last-night) swinging in a hammock. I've had this seemingly random phenomenon affect me variously throughout my life, mostly when I am about to go to sleep.
My question, however, is this: how do you keep from losing consciousness? In the instance last night, where I was swinging in an imaginary hammock, I was able to make it swing farther and farther out, but woke up later when my alarm went off. Is there a section of the book that explains this? (I do not wish to read ahead if I don't have to, as I'm only in the part about the different indirect techniques.)
Anyhow, you can imagine my excitement but it seems too tricky and I am simply of the belief that I don't understand it fully, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

It seems from your description that you have achieved the 'free floating state of mind' Mr. Raduga describes that is necessary for the more difficult Direct Techniques. As he vehemently opposes anyone practicing Direct Techniques until one has mastered Indirect Techniques I would suggest doing what he advises. However, you may not have to start with Indirect Techniques as it seems that you can enter the 'free floating state of mind' easily. If you want my opinion I would say it would be far better to follow his advice and try Indirect Techniques for a while, especially if you haven't had any lucids or full OBE's yet whilst experiencing the phenomena you have described. The reason why you are falling asleep is because you are experiencing this phenomena too passively.

Thanks for the thanks!

I am reading the workbook for the fourth time as I have been making mistakes and am analysing my actions to see where I am going wrong; and finding the answers! Please note it is the workbook and not the textbook. I am going to paste below an extract from the chapter entitled 'Extremely Important Advice'.

Quoting Mr. Raduga:

"If you veer off the path I have shown you, you'll be either completely depriving yourself of a rewarding experience, or at least making such an experience a very rare event. I often have to fight with one very strange aspect of human psychology: the desire to do things in one's own way in a field that one knows nothing about. I've done nearly everything I can: I've tested and described everything exactly, you can be quite sure that it will work. But then I'll go to talk with another practitioner, and it suddenly turns out that nothing is working for him. At least, that's what he says.
But once he starts to tell you what he did and how he did it, you immediately hear that he did exactly what you've told him dozens of times not to do. It turns out that he's done everything backwards. And if steps were taken in the right direction, then everything was done half-way, the wrong way, or no way, and the most fundamental elements were given no more than a passing try. Of course, it doesn't always turn out like that. It only does when someone is having problems with his practice. If there are no problems, that means that he's doing everything just as he was told.
And so, friend, I beg you to follow all of the instructions exactly. You're guaranteed to get a result. The more correctly you perform the techniques, the quicker the results will come. Some people get results during their first attempts.
But let's take a look at the most common mistake. I've already mentioned more than once here that one's practice should start only from the indirect techniques, that is techniques performed upon awakening. I've taught this phenomenon to thousands of people personally, and to a countless number through my books. I'm not saying that that's where you need to start just to have something to say. Indirect techniques are simply the easiest and most effective ones. For some reason, every second student will get some irresistible urge to buck my arguments and start from the hardest techniques: the direct ones, which are performed without accompanying sleep.
They usually tell me that direct techniques deliver more controllability. Yes, they do. And therein lies the problem. That's exactly why novices are unsuccessful with them, because beginners try to control them. In the section on direct techniques, you'll learn how they need to be performed in the opposite way - it is necessary to deliberately give up control over them and your conscious awareness for a certain period of time. And this is much more difficult than awakening and then entering the phase within a few moments.
Based on outward appearances, direct techniques seem preferable, which in and of itself draws people to them. However, indirect techniques need to be mastered first before trying anything else. Friend, such a desire will surely arise within you as well. But keep one thing in mind: indirect techniques work for everyone, while direct techniques are fraught with difficulty, even for those with much experience, let alone for a novice who has yet to learn the phenomenon from the inside out.
Starting from direct techniques is the same as walking into a weight-room for the first time in your life and trying to bench-press 500 pounds. No sane person would even think about doing that. It's simply unrealistic. It's first necessary to train for a certain period of time, which requires starting out from light weights. If the bench-press is a clear analogy, then direct techniques are a very near equivalent to those 400 pounds - lifting them would obviously be possible only after spending months working out, and require an incredible amount of strength. Yet the phase can be yours in literally a couple of days...
Yes, some people do have a predisposition for direct techniques, especially women. But whenever I talk about such predisposition, almost everyone thinks that I'm talking about them. You can forget about it. First learn what kind of phenomenon this is by performing specific actions upon awakening, and then - and only then - start experiments with direct techniques.
What's more, a lot of people may think that if they try both direct and indirect techniques simultaneously, then they will get, for example, guaranteed practice upon awakening, and sure practice with direct techniques before falling asleep. I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you, and even warn you. You are not a bottomless well of energy and strength. If you've been exhausting yourself with direct techniques all evening, then you'll have no energy or strength left to do anything correctly or effectively upon awakening. Based on my substantial observational data, I can categorically state that such an approach decreases the probability of having a successful experience by 50 to 80 percent.
The situation is even more ridiculous when a person attempting direct techniques has already suffered a fiasco with indirect techniques due to making mistakes, after having worked on them for say several weeks. I would like to emphasize that such a fiasco is possible only in the face of major mistakes and misunderstandings. And so, having tripped up over what is easiest, the unfortunate practitioner decides to move on to direct techniques - the hardest ones. Where's the logic? Being unable to do the easiest things, do you think that you will suddenly be able to do the hardest things? Now really? It's just the other way around! If you are still unable to take your conscious awareness out of your body upon awakening, then the one thing you have left to consider is becoming conscious while dreaming - but don't even think about direct techniques.
And so don't fiddle around, put all of your effort from the beginning into actions performed upon awakening - into the universal indirect techniques.
(Sadly, even after this being emphasized so much, a significant proportion of readers will nevertheless throw these warnings out the window and begin to torture themselves with direct techniques...)

Another widespread problem is incomplete performance of the techniques. No less than 75% of practitioners who are learning using my techniques suffer from this. It's interesting to note that 75% of them do so deliberately. Friend, you'll see later on that you need not perform superhuman feats in order to achieve the phase state. As far as the indirect techniques are concerned, you just need perform a simple algorithm of actions upon awakening. Just complete everything that you are required to do in full. And perform everything just as it is described.
Let's observe a few examples of incomplete performance of the techniques. We'll start with cycles of indirect techniques - the one universal phase entrance technique-based technology. It entails the completion, upon awakening, of no less than 4 cycles of techniques for a total of 9-15 seconds each, until a technique works. For some reason, many think that the proscribed minimum of 4 cycles does not apply to them. And so they do 1 or 2 cycles.... Like the time at one of my seminars when two men of about the same age sat next to each-other, both in the neighborhood of 45 years old. This was the second session, and they spoke about what they had been doing, and how things were going for them. The first man said that he had started by doing 2 cycles during one attempt, but then seeing as nothing was working, he decided to stop right there, even though I had said the previous afternoon to do 4 cycles. I had repeated it again and again... The second gentleman had also started by doing two cycles and nothing worked for him either. But he then started to do a third cycle, just like I had said to do. Then, one of the techniques worked like a charm during the fourth cycle, and he was able to leave his body. However, if he had done everything like his neighbor in the classroom, then nothing would have happened for him either... I have introduced this example only because I remember it quite well, as two people sitting next to one another sharply contrasted in their approach to what they were told to do.
People also very often forget when performing indirect techniques to first try to separate, and only then do cycles. With direct techniques, people also tend to forget about the free-floating state of mind, though without it there's no point in expecting anything, as I always point out early on.
Sometimes incomplete performance of techniques happens not because of a person's psychology, but out of an inability to complete a task. For example, with indirect techniques, it's very important to awaken without moving. Many are simply unable to keep themselves from moving. However, achieving this only requires practice. Not only that, but many also forget that if they wake up to their body moving, then they should nevertheless still make an attempt at separation. Sure, their odds are lower than usual, but are still quite high.
By and far, we could go on forever about the different ways in which people fail to fully perform techniques. I only wanted to tell you, friend, to try to fully implement all of the techniques. Each sentence and every word in the sections on techniques has been vetted by years of classroom instruction and has much more weight than a cursory glance would imply.
You see, in taking this book into your hands, you may mistakenly assume it be yet another work on some-odd occult or esoteric practice, in which everything is vaguely described and the majority of details are literally left up to the reader. Do not take such an approach to this book under any circumstances. Everything here is already well known, there's no reason to shroud this practice in a cloud of secrecy. You have clear instructions right here in front of you. Just follow them."

Thanks again for the help. I am sure that I am doing things 'my way' as you've said, but it's only because I feel there is a lack of explanation in some areas. For example, I've been reading about indirect techniques, so I plan to set my alarm for 6 hours of sleep, and then keep trying each time I wake up naturally, trying different techniques and trying to 'seperate'. I think what I'm having most trouble with is, in fact, the fact that it is an unknown path, and so I don't know what to do. For example, I've reached points in my experiments where I lose sound from the outside world, and then recoil because I feel I have to be aware, which just brings me out of where I was going. Are the indirect techniques going to just put me where I need to go? or is something more required? Finally, you mentioned I was being passive. What else am I supposed to do to make my efforts aggressive? I'm afraid that as of this moment, that is the most vague thing I'm trying to figure out. Again, I'm aware I've been doing things my own way on occasion, but I need some sort of map if you know what I mean. I guess I need to know what to expect so I can know if I'm doing it right or if I need to change some aspect, and what that may be.