One or the other ought to be enough. Keep in mind that counting -- when done in a meditative manner -- is a form of mantra. Doing both might be confusing or, worse, tend to keep you awake. |
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One or the other ought to be enough. Keep in mind that counting -- when done in a meditative manner -- is a form of mantra. Doing both might be confusing or, worse, tend to keep you awake. |
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Alright so I think I succeeded in My First OBE. So last night I wake up around 545 in the morning right before my alarm would of went off at 6. I lay on my back and repeat my mantra. I forgot to turn off my alarm so while repeating my mantra it went off and messed me up. After that i switched to my side and repeated my mantra and i fell asleep. I literally had like 3-4 DILDs out of nowhere. I kept ending up at my work place and i realized i was in a dream everytime. Between those dreams is when i reached the vibration stage. It literally felt like i had a soul in my body trying to wiggle its legs out of my body. So eventually i decided to just try and roll out of my body. I rolled out and after i rolled out im not sure what happened. I remember it was very blurry in my room and i saw my clock say 12:01. I think i was like 3 feet floating over my bed. And after that i just blacked out back to sleep i think? The second time i reached the vibrations i got scared (i dont know why though) and i opened my eyes and they stopped. |
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Last edited by xpin2winx; 09-03-2012 at 04:53 PM.
Dear friend Sageous. Is it okay to WILD before you first fall asleep if IT comes without you caring whether or not it does? Because, if so, I have missed out on very many WILD possibilities. If not, I will wait a year or two when I am maybe 14 and am not afraid of the unknown hidden in the dark(aka I cannot convince myself that the sounds are not creepy). So, is it ok? Many thanks, YOST |
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It's okay to WILD upon first falling asleep. It's just very difficult, because of the long abyss of delta (aka NREM) sleep through which you must pass in order to get to your dream. I'm not sure what this "IT" is that you speak of, but if it's LD-related, you can rest assured that "IT" won't be coming right when you fall asleep -- unless you are suffering from narcolepsy, or something similar. |
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I'll add my two cents if that's cool. I understand the fear factor completely. I think that if you keep at it, the fear will go away. Remember it is all in your mind. There is nothing that has gotten you yet and there will be nothing that will get you now or in the future. There is nothing to fear. Good luck! |
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"Oh, and everything is not what it seems
This life is but a dream"
Breakers Roar by Sturgill Simpson
im pretty sure i was able to get to the vibrations stage attempting a WILD last night. It only lasted a second though. Still thats the farthest i ever made it during a normal wild attempt and not a DEILD |
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^^ Cool. Small steps are better than no steps at all! |
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Last edited by Sageous; 09-07-2012 at 05:55 PM.
Well, the other night I pretty much had a successful WILD, but somehow my Reality Check didn't work. Not sure why. I think I was too relaxed in my attempt to have expected it to work! |
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Rawr!
This morning i attempted a WILD at 10 AM. I woke up and was physically tired but pretty alert. So im falling asleep and im able to keep my mind awake. Auditory Hallucinations kicked in out of nowhere and i started to hear a conversation of my manager and my coworker. The very intense vibrations came immediately after and i ended within a second. I didnt enter a dream so i relaxed more and the vibrations came back for about 5 seconds then stopped again. Nothing happened, i got the vibrations again and they died off and i realized i was too late in my sleep cycle to fall asleep again. I think im getting better at WILDs but my only problem seems to be at this point transitioning into dream. I know i shouldnt be paying attention to the vibrations but its kind of hard not to. I mean it literally feels and sounds like a tornado is in my room. Sometimes i hear people laughing or talking also which distracts me. |
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I FINALLY DID IT! I haven't tried this since the baby was born but I was a woken up buy my son after about 6 hours of sleep. So when we got all settled down again I just decided to go ahead and try to WILD. It took a while to get really comfortable. I ended up on my right side. I didn't have a lot of expectation or excitement. I approached it like I really didn't care if it happened or not. (I think that made the difference) I kept the awareness feeling but to a very dim level and repeated my mantra. I have 3 or 4 mantras now. I like to change them up so they don't lose meaning. I rotated through them all this time. Then at some point I suddenly hit SP. It was just like every DEILD experience except there was no loss of consciousness or dream before. I had some heavy HI that I ignored but that was it. I know SP is not supposed to be a stage but that's how I know I'm there. I don't try to induce SP it just takes me and I relax into it and then I make my dream body get out of bed. I did have a lot of confusion at first and I ended up DEILDing to keep it going but yeah I definitely did it and the LD was epic! |
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"Oh, and everything is not what it seems
This life is but a dream"
Breakers Roar by Sturgill Simpson
Great job, Xanous! You know my opinion of SP by now, of course, but if it works for you in that manner, it makes sense (for you) to elevate its importance. |
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Hello, Sageous! |
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Last edited by CJC; 09-11-2012 at 01:06 AM.
^^ HI ThAtaInTmE: |
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Alright, I woke up 2-3 hours ago I believe, and I looked at my alarm, and saw that it's 7:xx AM, and I wondered, hmmm, do a reality check. I do a nose plug reality check, and I even count my fingers. |
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Last edited by Linkzelda; 09-11-2012 at 01:22 PM.
Yeah, those false awakenings can be annoying, can't they? Especially when your dreaming mind offers up all the RC details you require! |
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Your welcome |
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Last edited by CJC; 09-11-2012 at 08:01 PM.
My original plan was to stick with MILD while practicing daytime RRCs until next Saturday. I woke up from a nightmare at around 5 am this morning. I did WBTB, jotted down a few keywords, used the bathroom, and hunkered down again. I started out with another MILD - I went over the last dream, imagining what it would feel like to have recognized DS and RC. I repeated to myself a few times that the next thing I'll see will be a dream. After a couple of minutes, I decided on a whim to try WILD instead, and started counting. I'm pretty sure I counted to 20 but don't remember any numbers beyond that. The next thing I remember is being lucid in a fully-formed dream. |
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^^ Thanks for sharing, Michal; interesting stuff! |
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Well, I guess I'll post here. I'm new to the "class thing". |
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Welcome, Skullgunner! |
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alright sageous. Ive noticed ive been coming extremely close near the end of my sleep. Like if i fall asleep around 12am and i wake up at like 10am. Ill usually become very close to succeeding right around 945 am. I think this is because my mind is finally starting to fully awaken but my body is still extremely relaxed. Like today around 10, i woke up and kept still and started to visualize people i knew. All of a sudden my visualizations became clearer and clearer. Eventually i started to hear my mother talking in the background and it felt like i was in a car listening to her, and i felt the vibrations and heard the other noises in which i tried to ignore. The problem was though i already slept and my body didnt want to sleep anymore. So basically i couldnt enter the dream. Im thinking i should increase my WBTB time to let my mind awaken a bit more so i can keep myself following my mantra and such. Because usually i just wake up, go to the bathroom and try to fall back asleep immediately because i fear if i do i start to waken up a bit, i wont be able to fall back asleep. |
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Last edited by xpin2winx; 09-15-2012 at 06:29 PM.
I failed this morning. I did a WBTB after 6hrs. I was up maybe 30 min. I ended up falling asleep about 2 times and tried to go into DEILD but it just wouldn't come. I think once I turned my head and scratched my nose. The third time I started with a strong mantra but ditched it because it was keeping me too awake. I started doing the opposite instead. I cleared my mind and just did a classic meditation while ignoring all noise. I did use the sound of the fan as a type of anchor and thought of it as my 'ooommmm' sound. My awareness became a dim thing then suddenly I noticed slight vibrations. I go excited at that point and thought "AHHHH YES HERE IT IS. THE SP WILL START THEN IM IN YAY! But my excitement caused my heart to race and mind to race and then it was gone. I was wide awake. I got way to excited. I tried again but it just go too late in the morning to be in bed. |
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Last edited by Xanous; 09-15-2012 at 10:59 PM.
"Oh, and everything is not what it seems
This life is but a dream"
Breakers Roar by Sturgill Simpson
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