Thread: I challenge you to visualize!

Originally Posted by Raspberry

I think I'd get to the point where I forgot how far away the floor is and not bend my legs in time, and hurt myself... Or faceplant the floor.

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That's hardcore, I'd love to have that kind of visualisation "skill", may come in handy during boring classes...

It comes in very, very handy. Pretty much, whenever something gets boring, my eyes kinda glaze over or I shut them briefly so I can visualise something fun.

I should encorporate it into WILDing, but I have a feeling I'll fall asleep unconsciously because visualisation is my method of getting to sleep in the first place

This can actually be a bit annoying for me, since I can be lying in bed imagining what I want to dream about, and then my limbs feel like they're doing what I'm imagining, and I'll get distracted and realise that I still have a body. Still pretty cool though.

Also, is this linked with daydreaming? Because I daydream a LOT.

I can only imagine things, not really see them like I would with eyes open..
Gotta practice..

Originally Posted by LSDreamer

I see zero point in visualization practice. Its not like lucid dreaming has anything to do with imagination and seeing stuff with your third eye. Sometimes I dont understand why people post. /End Sarcasm

Exactly

Oh, this sounds like a fun thread. I'll be sure to report back. What to visualize? What to visualize? What can't I visualize?

I found it quite hard to visualise in 1st person (through my eyes) at first too. But after some practice it's fine for me now It makes it a lot easier to think of what you're smelling, tasteing etc.

Will visualization help in inducing a dream of some kind?

I have been using visualisation to enter dreams for ages, but usually not to induce lucid dreams (as I haven't had any lucid dreams since growing up).
I tried that however this morning. After 9 hours sleep I got up for a couple of minutes and then went back to bed to intentionally visualise my way into my personal dream world. And I was successful - up to a point

Here is what I did:
I got comfortable in my bed. Then I started to visualise...
I entered a big vast room with hundreds of thousands crystal orbs suspended in the air all over the room. For a while I wandered around the room looking into some of the orbs - catching a glimpse here and there. This is my dream storage room!
Because there were so many orbs it would take me ages to look and examine each one. So I looked around to find a way to identify one that I remembered and wanted to enter. And Lo and behold there was a computer touch screen on one of the walls nearby. I moved towards it and discovered that it listed all my dreams. I could select one of them (could even search) or choose to create a new one.
First I tried it with a recent dream I wanted to revisit. I identified it as it was labeled the same as in my dream journal. After selecting it I detected a glowing orb some steps away from me. I walked over and looked into it. It was the correct dream. I knew I had to continue looking into the orb, focussing on it and the pulsating glow to enter the dream. But somehow I couldn't go through with it. I got distracted by other remembered dreams that I could have chosen instead.
So I tried it with a "new" dream. Another orb started to glow and as I looked into it all I could see was white. I focussed on it and the pulsating glow and suddenly with a "plop" (short bursting sound) I found myself falling to the white nothingness. It looked like a white canvas all around me ready to create a dreamscape. I was standing in there and wondered for quite some time what I wanted to create, but unfortunately I couldn't decide among all the different scenarios I had designed in my waking life. Then I was startled awake by some noise outside.

Maybe I should add a "random" button to the screen just to make it easier to enter not-remembered dreams.

So to make a long story short -- To answer your question Dancr, I would say for me it works but I guess that's different for everyone.

I started doing this and told my girlfriend about it too. This morning she had a super long vivid LD containing her the things she was visualizing. She always visualizes a giant moon in the sky and when she saw that in her dream she was instantly lucid. A lot of things in that dream had things that she was visualizing. We have been doing this before bed and it really has helped. I had a wild this morning with a visualization of me leaving my body and walking around the house touching stuff. I never got 100% stable.

Originally Posted by angelkiss

this is my dream storage room!

DAMN, I LIKE! =D

not caps

Heres another thing:

My gf and I bought a giant picture a landscape with two moons and a giant tree. It looks really pretty and every night before bed we visualize us both going to that tree and becoming lucid. Since then she has had two lucids and I have had one every night. We even had a weird dream that we were in our bedroom and she was lucid. In the dream I was telling her to wait and she was getting annoyed because on the other side of our door was that landscape. I told her I wasn't lucid yet. We both woke up at the same time facing eachother. Pretty weird, but pretty successful

Thanks for this. I had a go just now and managed to convince myself a cup of cold water was chocolate milk. As I focused, the colour, consistancy and aroma changed in my mind's eye. The taste changed ever so slightly but needs work. I'll try this with other stuff when I WBTB later

Originally Posted by arby

But in reality, everyone knows how to visualize, at least under the right circumstances. You have dreams, right? It would be silly to think that suddenly when you are awake, this ability to see and experience things that aren't there suddenly goes away

Well said! It is a scientific fact that both visualization and dreaming occur in the secondary visual cortices. This simple visualization technique doesn't get much press for some unknown reason. Maybe it's not 'sexy' enough. It does not require binaural beats, exotic herbs or guided hypnosis. It has no fancy acronym. Just visualize something... anything (non-threatening, preferably) and you will enhance your ability to fall asleep and dream. If you wake in the middle of the night and want to return to the dream you were having... visualize the dream. I have written extensively about this phenomena in my blog. Click below and then click on 'Sleep Thoughts' . Happy LD'ing!!

I need my skills increesed so Il commit. I already do the phantom syndrom when Im bored.