Thread: Gravity RC and recall

Hey there,
wanted to report back. i am still on it! now for about 6 weeks. here and there i might have miss a day or two but overall i am on it.

the way i do it now: keep track of gravity in arms for most of the time. i try to notice the different weight of different things in my hands. when i have nothing in my hands i may switch to be aware of my weight when i am sitting or when i am moving i notice the weight of my body on my feet.

nevertheless i still sometimes do some regular RC. like counting my fingers or beeing aware of a digital time more often to see if it changes.
-> did you do this too? or would you recommend to FULLy concentrate on gravity itself without backing it up by an ordinary RC?

i also often (not always) say in my head (a mantra if you like?): i feel my weight/i feel the weight of my arms (or whatever part). i notice that i am dreaming.
->sometimes i feel that it focuses my concentration for some time. sometimes i think i am more focused on the mantra itsell and my breath that i am less aware of the gravity itself...

did you have an inner monologue while practicing? or do you "shut up" and just go with you inner eye and awareness to the bodypart?

lets say my recall is not that good at all at the moment. in theory: do you think even with not that good recall but still good awareness during day and intention setting -> will there be progress and therefore lucids which you are more likely to remember. so even with bad recall would my lucidity rate go up with time nevertheless?


like i see it my commitment to this technique is unbroken. i am lacking for some proper DJing and recall and more awareness of the micro awakenings... i still kind of notice them but fall instananiosuly unconcious and asleep. i need to notice them enough or intent enough to prolong them for atleast some minutes to recall properly and set awareness to gravity before falling asleep again...
and that i found energy draining for me... but i really want to make some proper progress with ld again!

Hey Hukif! I have been inactive for a couple years but I still use your technique and it works great. I hardly ever have to do a nose plug RC to realize I'm dreaming I just sort of know. It only happens occasionally because I haven't been disciplined with my awareness or dream journaling but It shouldn't take long to get back at it.

Your technique even saved me from a night terror one time, something that hardly ever happens to me. I woke up and saw a ghost girl staring right at me completely transparent. It was completely convincing and completely terrifying but because I could tell something was just a bit to floaty about my body I knew it wasn't real and didn't freak the heck out. Instead I got to marvel at the hallucination as she faded away. If I had to plug my nose before I knew it was fake I would have definitely shit my pants!

Anyways, back when I was more active, I did notice an increase in my dream recall after I got good at gravity RC. I also got better awareness while sleeping but not dreaming which makes it easier to transition into a lucid dream!

Been practising this for 50 days so far...still i haven't checked my gravity in a dream...How much do you think it might take for it to transfer to my dreams?

Originally Posted by Ajanime22

"using it actively"? I read in a thread in which either you or Azul said that it's supposed to be passive. Instead of typical RCs that usually interrupt your daily flow and whatever task you were doing, you can do the gravity RC while still going about your regular tasks.

I just feel gravity and I try to tell myself that when it feels weird, I know I'm dreaming.

How is it supposed to work?

It is an excersice of self awareness. You don't tell yourself anything actually, mostly it is an excersice in which you learn about yourseld and your world. So to speak, one becomes a huge RC in which you learn to "understand" what your real world is like and to "know" which one is and isn't that real world, ie. becoming lucid during unreal worlds such as a dream.

Originally Posted by Habba

Thought I would re-read this just to re-assure me on some things.

Had a dream last night where I was running but it felt like I wasn't, I was getting closer to my destination but at the same time it felt as if I wasn't even moving.

Hmm, was it due to weird scene skips or just weight?

Originally Posted by RelaxAndDream

Hey there,
wanted to report back. i am still on it! now for about 6 weeks. here and there i might have miss a day or two but overall i am on it.

the way i do it now: keep track of gravity in arms for most of the time. i try to notice the different weight of different things in my hands. when i have nothing in my hands i may switch to be aware of my weight when i am sitting or when i am moving i notice the weight of my body on my feet.

nevertheless i still sometimes do some regular RC. like counting my fingers or beeing aware of a digital time more often to see if it changes.
-> did you do this too? or would you recommend to FULLy concentrate on gravity itself without backing it up by an ordinary RC?

i also often (not always) say in my head (a mantra if you like?): i feel my weight/i feel the weight of my arms (or whatever part). i notice that i am dreaming.
->sometimes i feel that it focuses my concentration for some time. sometimes i think i am more focused on the mantra itsell and my breath that i am less aware of the gravity itself...

did you have an inner monologue while practicing? or do you "shut up" and just go with you inner eye and awareness to the bodypart?

lets say my recall is not that good at all at the moment. in theory: do you think even with not that good recall but still good awareness during day and intention setting -> will there be progress and therefore lucids which you are more likely to remember. so even with bad recall would my lucidity rate go up with time nevertheless?


like i see it my commitment to this technique is unbroken. i am lacking for some proper DJing and recall and more awareness of the micro awakenings... i still kind of notice them but fall instananiosuly unconcious and asleep. i need to notice them enough or intent enough to prolong them for atleast some minutes to recall properly and set awareness to gravity before falling asleep again...
and that i found energy draining for me... but i really want to make some proper progress with ld again!

Answered through PM, but feel like its important to post it here.

Gravity RC is an excersice on awareness, so just as mantras would work on making oneself more aware, it will on gravity. One is supposed to grow understanding and knowledge of their own world by making the best possible use of each technique, in this case the constant checking of gravity and as such, coming to understand the difference between both worlds and getting lucid not only in the dream world, but also in the waking one.

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Hey Hukif! I have been inactive for a couple years but I still use your technique and it works great. I hardly ever have to do a nose plug RC to realize I'm dreaming I just sort of know. It only happens occasionally because I haven't been disciplined with my awareness or dream journaling but It shouldn't take long to get back at it.

Your technique even saved me from a night terror one time, something that hardly ever happens to me. I woke up and saw a ghost girl staring right at me completely transparent. It was completely convincing and completely terrifying but because I could tell something was just a bit to floaty about my body I knew it wasn't real and didn't freak the heck out. Instead I got to marvel at the hallucination as she faded away. If I had to plug my nose before I knew it was fake I would have definitely shit my pants!

Anyways, back when I was more active, I did notice an increase in my dream recall after I got good at gravity RC. I also got better awareness while sleeping but not dreaming which makes it easier to transition into a lucid dream!

I've been inactive for a few months, damn work lol
But thank you for the report and am glad it helps you in your lucidity path!

Originally Posted by tasinios

Been practising this for 50 days so far...still i haven't checked my gravity in a dream...How much do you think it might take for it to transfer to my dreams?

50 days! Have you noticed anything strange at all?

I sent u a PM hukif.

So iv'e tested this out for myself in dream and I can verify it works at least for me. I haven't made it my natural RC yet but I had a DILD last night where I was testing it out by focusing on my gravity. My feet felt like they were in iron boots! I am definately looking into this technique more.

Originally Posted by Stintman

So iv'e tested this out for myself in dream and I can verify it works at least for me. I haven't made it my natural RC yet but I had a DILD last night where I was testing it out by focusing on my gravity. My feet felt like they were in iron boots! I am definately looking into this technique more.

How much time did it take for you to get results?

Originally Posted by tasinios

How much time did it take for you to get results?

Like I said I haven't been using it in WL. But In an LD last night I remember for at least the past two LDs iv'e had iv'e experimented. In the first ld I just walked around and felt it eventually. The second LD I felt an immediate heaviness of my legs.

Well thats awesome. Please do share any results you may have stintman.

Always looking forward to more people trying the RC so yeah!

so i am still on it. i still didnt found out my style completely. when i focus on my arms i feel the inside of them. i somehow feel the heavines of them but more it is a dull feeling in them. i dont know it doesnt matter for the RC and still would work. i often focus when standing or moving on my feet because there i feel the most pressure. but i still feel unsecure if i should completely focus on my arms or my feet or switch between the parts i feel best at the moment. like sometimes when i am sitting relaxed i feel nearly my whole body or atleast the parts that are in contact with the couch or something.

maybe good news:
i had a lucid in which i randomly did an handstand (daytime residue) and i felt a big difference to the waking experience. it felt like i dont had a lot of power in my leggs and i had problems to push myself into the handstand but when i stand in my hands then i noticed that it felt very light and could stand it without any balanceproblems.

last night i had a nldream where someone did a boulder. he didnt manage to do it. i tried with streetshoes and did the start without a problem. i noticed that it felt very easy and light.

so i had no dreams where i noticed gravity in a direct way but start to feel indirect impact of it? or would you say that its something different?

I would say you are feeling gravity, not just directly from your own dream body. Lets remember that everythign in a dream (IMO at least) is a part of you, so your body did feel the change in gravity, not just directly in your body avatar.

63 days on this one so far and nothing yet but i may had something and not remember it.For the past week my recall has been slacking.I will try to increase my recall again and see if i have any changes.Gonna give it more time though.When i experience something in real life it appears in my dreams in a day or two.But i have been checking the gravity for at least 70% of my waking life for 63 days and still nothing.

Wait, one day really? Generally that happens when one is already aware of a certain aspect of their waking lifes.

No wonder its taking a toll on your recall, as you are basically rewiring your point of awareness IMO.
Maybe you could integrate gravity into that one life aspect in order to make it work faster?

yes hukif for example i have been thinking of telling my brother in law to give me a haircut because he is a barber.And when i went to bed that day i dreamed about asking him to give me haircut.Any ideas how i can use this to my advantage?

If you have such reliable incubation, imagine that you're getting lucid in a dream. Imagine you notice dream-y things, do RCs, and get lucid.

frying i have tried this in the past and it didnt help.The thing i mentioned about experiences and thoughts becoming dreams in 1-2 days happens but not all the time.I don't know what hukif means though?I am already highly aware of something without knowing ? Don't know what you mean but i find it interesting.Explain if you can.

Hmm, well if you don't know what you are being aware of we could find clues in your DJ? Can you make a small list of the stuff that make it onto your dreams quickly? We might get a clue there, in order to make it work faster as rewiring oneself is generally (IMO at least) slowing down ones own progress, because it is not the natural way of our own system.

hi, so i can back up tasinios. i also noticed that normal day residues needs about one or most of the time two night so show somehow in my dreams. nothing i do on purpose or incubate but just random stuff. for example today i see a wonderful tree with colorful fruits and in the night after tomorrow i may dream of this fruits in an apartement i look around.
but with Gravity RC its something different imo. here its not just something you saw or felt intensively (or even not intensively) but an awareness exercise that works against your natural habit and therefore wont just like that transit like an impression or a picture but is more of a feeling and thats way harder atleast in my understanding.

in order to make it work faster as rewiring oneself is generally (IMO at least) slowing down ones own progress, because it is not the natural way of our own system.

can you explain this further or with different words. when i get you right it seems like you dont want to "rewire" oneself because it slows you down? sounds "negative" like something would fit better but here with your RC its exactly what one is doing or not?


Further success for me:
tonight for the first time (i can recall ) i actively noticed gravity on my own avatar. i moved some stairs up and really felt the weight and the force i need to put in to climb them up. unfortunatly it didnt make me lucid because i didnt feel that much of a difference but the thoughts where right i think because i was evaluating the situation (normal = waking; different = dream) after waking i might only say the difference was very little...
after that later that night in a dream i remembered the dream and told my self to notice next time when weight is different.... *facepalm* but there i didnt felt the weight itself...

nevertheless i feel like i finaly see a little progress and atleast SOMETHING is happening. thats a good motivational boost

Ahhh Hukif it happened again.Yesterday a friend said that he was missing something that makes him have fun.I thought ohh he is talking about weed.The last part of my dream was me sitting in my livin room smoking weed.So i guess it happens when i think of something throuhout the day?Like my thoughts/concerns travel to my dreams?One time i was concerned about my friends findin something out and at the samw night they did (in a dream).So situations and objects i would guess that mostly i think about?

Originally Posted by RelaxAndDream

hi, so i can back up tasinios. i also noticed that normal day residues needs about one or most of the time two night so show somehow in my dreams. nothing i do on purpose or incubate but just random stuff. for example today i see a wonderful tree with colorful fruits and in the night after tomorrow i may dream of this fruits in an apartement i look around.
but with Gravity RC its something different imo. here its not just something you saw or felt intensively (or even not intensively) but an awareness exercise that works against your natural habit and therefore wont just like that transit like an impression or a picture but is more of a feeling and thats way harder atleast in my understanding.



can you explain this further or with different words. when i get you right it seems like you dont want to "rewire" oneself because it slows you down? sounds "negative" like something would fit better but here with your RC its exactly what one is doing or not?


Further success for me:
tonight for the first time (i can recall ) i actively noticed gravity on my own avatar. i moved some stairs up and really felt the weight and the force i need to put in to climb them up. unfortunatly it didnt make me lucid because i didnt feel that much of a difference but the thoughts where right i think because i was evaluating the situation (normal = waking; different = dream) after waking i might only say the difference was very little...
after that later that night in a dream i remembered the dream and told my self to notice next time when weight is different.... *facepalm* but there i didnt felt the weight itself...

nevertheless i feel like i finaly see a little progress and atleast SOMETHING is happening. thats a good motivational boost

Sure thing. IMO gravity just like any other awareness/self-awareness excersice is one to learn about ones own waking world.
What I mean by rewritting is simply changing the point of awareness. Most people take note on themselves by nature as a form of awareness despite it being weak, so gravity being centered around oneself would just increase this awareness and learning process.
While if for example, the persons awareness is mostly external (Like in ADA for example) then doing gravity will make it harder as it will rewire the point of awareness from the outside to the inside of ones own mind.

And yay! Progress! For me, after seeing the first tips of progress it started to snowball, first slowly and then very strongly so that is something good.
For Azul the snowball effect was a bit slower, but it didnt' take him that long to start getting more and more lucids.

Tasinos, it seems like your dreams interpret that which happens from without you, rather than something within you much like happened to RelaxAndDream, in his case it was something that caught his attention randomly, while in yours it is something that happens from someone else and then makes it onto your dreams, at least from the last two examples.

We have to think abotu the different kind of awareness and how to use them in our favor, mostly so that we manage it in the most natural way for our own world perseption.

Hey there
short question:

how does your nighttimeroutine looks like? when falling asleep or after waking you check for gravity right? when you fall asleep and it needs some time you focus on a bodypart and stay there and "just" feel the weight constantly without letting go? and when you notice you drift of with your thought or awareness you come back and focus on your bodypart again until you fall asleep or how do yo do it?
is this also a way to WILD for you? on what bodypart do you focus there? so far most of the time i focus on both of my underarms. do you think its enough to for example just focus on one arm?

Another short question:

Is it possible to think about something else while feeling gravity at the same time?

Originally Posted by RelaxAndDream

Hey there
short question:

how does your nighttimeroutine looks like? when falling asleep or after waking you check for gravity right? when you fall asleep and it needs some time you focus on a bodypart and stay there and "just" feel the weight constantly without letting go? and when you notice you drift of with your thought or awareness you come back and focus on your bodypart again until you fall asleep or how do yo do it?
is this also a way to WILD for you? on what bodypart do you focus there? so far most of the time i focus on both of my underarms. do you think its enough to for example just focus on one arm?

Well, I have no routine at all, my routine consists of checking gravity all day long. It isn't a matter of how much I'm focusing on it anymore but rather, it has now become second nature and will check on it naturally, so to speak whenever I'm in any shape or form, aware.

Originally Posted by Ajanime22

Another short question:

Is it possible to think about something else while feeling gravity at the same time?

Sure thing, I practice this RC all day long. While eating, typing, studying, reading, kissing, and what not.

What do you focus on, though?

What seems to be tripping me up is knowing what to focus on.

Do I keep my focus on one body part all day long?
Do I switch it depending on the activity that I'm doing at the moment?
If you do keep changing your focus, how do you constantly remember to change the focus of where you're feeling gravity if you find yourself being called to do various acrivities that you weren't mentally preparing yourself for?

I've been working on the Gravity RC for over two weeks now, and have noticed the theme coming up more frequently in my non-lucids.
First, levitation and flying has become a more prominent part of my dreams, often leading to a pre-lucid state, or a dream with control.
At this point though, I'm not becoming lucid from gravity itself. I'll often think about about the gravity RC in dreams and actually thoughts along the lines of: "when will I begin to notice gravity in dreams?' or 'when will I start having lucids from gravity?'. In these cases, the actually feel of gravity doesn't appear (at least in memory). I feel the levitation/flying though.
Basically, my questions is: as I'm experiencing the gravity theme as well as levitation/flying occurring very frequently at this point, when could I expect the general gravity feel I'm working on throughout the day to begin appearing?
[I'm going to work a bit on matras/prospective mem to get lucid from levitation etc.] Thanks for all responses!