Lucid Dreaming Book Club Suggestions

[Hilary]

Please use this thread to make suggestions for the Lucid Dreaming Book Club's next title. Suggestions may be on the topic of lucid dreaming, as well as related topics: non-lucid dreaming, psychology of dreams (i.e. Jung), shamanic dreamwork, out of body experiences, astral projection, dream yoga. Please limit your suggestions to no more than 3 titles per person per month. We will vote on them in another thread.

[Hilary]

I'm going to go ahead and put in my suggestion for Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge. I know most have read it, however, it's great for the beginners here, and it is always a good re-read. Plus, there's a new audiobook version out there, and it's free on Hoopla if you have a library card that uses them.

[Lang]

I was going to suggest a Daniel Love book, for some of the beginners out there. The book is called "Are You Dreaming?: Exploring Lucid Dreams: A Comprehensive Guide". He is a member here on the forum. Maybe if people have questions about lucid dreaming, you can just PM him and he may help you? It's all up to you guys?

[Hilary]

I was going to suggest a Daniel Love book, for some of the beginners out there. The book is called "Are You Dreaming?: Exploring Lucid Dreams: A Comprehensive Guide". He is a member here on the forum. Maybe if people have questions about lucid dreaming, you can just PM him and he may help you? It's all up to you guys? I haven't read this, and would be interested. Although, it would take me longer as I'm sure it's not on audiobook?

[Lang]

To be honest, I'm not sure.

[michael79]

This is not for lucidity, but it can help regardless. Anna Wise Awakening the Mind: A Guide to Harnessing the Power of Your Brainwaves Review “ Awakening the Mind is a first-rate guidebook for the development of consciousness. Anna Wise is one of the foremost pioneers of brain-wave biofeedback. Her book is filled with practical secrets that she has learned over the years and that anyone can use to make fuller use of the mind and become more skilled at living.” —Andrew Weil, M.D. About the Author Anna Wise, author of The High-Performance Mind, has taught meditation and brain-wave development for three decades. She leads workshops, seminars, and corporate-training programs worldwide. In 1988, she founded The Anna Wise Center in Larkspur, California.

[EddieDean]

I would recommend Robert Waggoner's Lucid Dreaming - Gateway to the Inner Self. It's not for absolute beginners, but contains a wealth of info for advancing beginners to seasoned veterans. A bit on the spiritual rather than scientific side for my own taste, but worthwile to check out!

[Sageous]

How about Illusions, by Richard Bach? Though it isn't specifically about LD'ing, if read in the context of LD'ing, it might be an outstanding guide to its potentials... plus it's a fun book!

[Hilary]

I would recommend Robert Waggoner's Lucid Dreaming - Gateway to the Inner Self. It's not for absolute beginners, but contains a wealth of info for advancing beginners to seasoned veterans. A bit on the spiritual rather than scientific side for my own taste, but worthwile to check out! That's a good book. I've read it, but would be happy to re-read. I happen to love the fact that it's a touch spiritual. It challenges us to go beyond ourselves. How about Illusions, by Richard Bach? Though it isn't specifically about LD'ing, if read in the context of LD'ing, it might be an outstanding guide to its potentials... plus it's a fun book! A weird idea. I like it.

[EddieDean]

How about Illusions, by Richard Bach? Though it isn't specifically about LD'ing, if read in the context of LD'ing, it might be an outstanding guide to its potentials... plus it's a fun book! I saw your suggestion and got the ebook, man that's a beautiful piece! "... illusions, maybe, but pretty ones for sure". Thanks for the suggestion!

[Lang]

Nice Suggestions guys, keep em' coming! ~Lang

[Hilary]

Last day for book suggestions. Tomorrow we will start the voting process.

[Hilary]

Please feel free to add new suggestions, even if you've already suggested before. We will save them for the next month. I would like add: The WILD Way to Lucid Dreaming: Lucid Dreaming On Demand by Slider

[Occipitalred]

I'll suggest a book too: Mindful Dreaming - A Practical Guide for Emotional Healing Through Transformative Mythic Journeys by David Gordon I think this was the only book I found about lucid dreaming at my local library and it made for a thoughtful reading. I recommend it

[Hilary]

I'll suggest a book too: Mindful Dreaming - A Practical Guide for Emotional Healing Through Transformative Mythic Journeys by David Gordon I think this was the only book I found about lucid dreaming at my local library and it made for a thoughtful reading. I recommend it Cool. The e-book is free on Hoopla... and Scribd has it, too (so $10 for the audiobook).

[Occipitalred]

Also... I wanted to wait longer to suggest this but I really wanted to bring up... Oneironauticus by Peter A. Luber (2008) I bought the Kindle Edition earlier this summer for $8 (Canadian) and I am reading it on my laptop. I'm planning to read all of Sageous' novels starting with the earliest and then proceeding to Party Line (2009), Simply Pay Attention (2011) and Subspaces (2017) and I thought it would be fun to do it as a book club here. Not much longer after this thought, you, Moonagedaydream, brought the amazing idea of doing a Dreamviews Bookclub, that I am very happy you are managing! I've been waiting because I don't plan to sprint through these 4 novels and I thought we could read some other books first and in between. But I thought I might be honest now and say I was going to suggest these as I read them (I need not mention these are fun fiction novels about oneironauts and dreams)

[Sageous]

^^ Thanks, Occipitalred; I do appreciate it! A quick note, though: Though I do think it as just as fun as the rest, Subspaces is a collection of short stories, and dreaming doesn't show up very often... still a god read, of course! Also, if I were to recommend one for here, I think it would be Party Line, because it is essentially about shared dreaming, and I know some members are into that... Oneironauticus is more fun (in terms of action adventure), though, and I personally would love to hear reviews of Simply Pay Attention... so never mind: any of them would be fine!

[FryingMan]

^^ Thanks, Occipitalred; I do appreciate it! A quick note, though: Though I do think it as just as fun as the rest, Subspaces is a collection of short stories, and dreaming doesn't show up very often... still a god read, of course! Also, if I were to recommend one for here, I think it would be Party Line, because it is essentially about shared dreaming, and I know some members are into that... Oneironauticus is more fun (in terms of action adventure), though, and I personally would love to hear reviews of Simply Pay Attention... so never mind: any of them would be fine! I'll let you know, I just picked up Simply Pay Attention (a catch-phrase near and dear to my heart and practice!). I'll also probably try Oneironauticus . By way of suggestion, I recommend "The Mind Illuminated," a non-spiritual, step by step, well-explained guide to meditation leading towards a powerful conscious mind (and ultimately, Awakening). I find it is giving me a lot of tools to work on enhancing my LD practice. It discusses different models of consciousness, and how to develop stable attention and powerful mindfulness. I also give a big thumbs up to ETWOLD. I only really use chapters 1-3 of the book, though, the latter ones never really resonated with me.

[delusionalwrit]

Hello fellow dreamers, I just found this forum and it seems very cool. I've spent the last couple of years writing a book that has to do with the question - can we leave our body? It's a novel (scifi/technothriller), and it's meant to bridge the gap between the people who already see that there is more, and the people who don't question enough. It's not meant to be a how-to guide or anything, but more of a story that shows what could be possible if science were to realign to focus on the right things. It's largely about the discovery of consciousness as a force of nature. I wanted to post my book here on the off chance, you all might be interested and want to maybe read it and share your thoughts. It is self published, but I've rewritten it six times and believe the story is fairly solid. There may still be the occasional small misspelling or grammar issue, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority have been found (I keep updating it, if I find more), so please don't hold this against me. In a recent post in /r/astralprojection which kind of blew me away in terms of interest from people. [link removes] Which also started some pretty good conversations. Also, here's a blurb on it that I think gets a person's mind in the right place. Thanks all and have a good one. -------------- In the 1950s a guy named Nils Aall Barricelli first began to try model evolution. The computers they had were really limited in what they could do, and the actual processing was very restricted, but the idea was pretty revolutionary. Nils was obsessed with creating an artificial world, and after many tries, he did... somewhat. One of his first successes was in an area called cellular automata. It was a simulation where he used numbers on a grid and by creating rules, he allowed a world to unfold. Over time, he could watch the numbers mutate and move. They'd form bonds and group together. He considered these "organisms" and would refer to them as such. In reality they were just numbers in the world of arithmetic. He didn't even have a user interface, but they were to some degree... organisms and they were replicating. He'd created a world. A simple world, but a world nonetheless. He provided rules and would watch as evolution unfolded in front of him. Within this numbered world, he watched blocks of code, or viruses, as they would form, march forth, and destroy these living organisms. He'd see as one cell would become many and he'd see the worlds he'd created fade between chaos and stasis. He was continually having to add or adjust rules to maintain order. He was working with a joke of a computer, but it was game changing at the time. But then in 1954 he started involving imagery. Soon after this, anyone could watch as these worlds unfolded before their eyes. The screens showed what looked like satellite imagery. Individual dots or cells would merge and migrate and move. Evolution could now be visible through the aid of a computer. Evolution that used only math. It must have been amazing to experience, and to see for the first time. Can you imagine that realization, to know that computers would be the future? It would lead to many new ideas such as early AI, animation, and so much that we take for granted these days, but it was incomplete. His worlds would always crumble. They had too many limitations. They could expand, but they couldn't move beyond the confines of the computer. His issue was or is... that he only focused on math. It's simply not enough to expect life and existence to stay the same. Think about everything that is understood about quantum theory. There are super states, there is vagueness, there is uncertainty... there is choice. Link if anyone is interested - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58121351-worlds

[DarkestDarkness]

I saw that you had first made a thread in the off-topic sub-forum and that it was subsequently removed, or perhaps you deleted it. delusionalwrit, while I appreciate the difficulties and vastness of putting one's own work out there, I do think it's not appropriate to come to a forum like this simply to try and get people interested in your work; this isn't Reddit and forum etiquette does work differently, I believe. If you want to approach this forum's community so that they take interest in your work, it only makes sense to reciprocate if you actually have a genuine desire to do so by participating in the community. Otherwise, it's effectively just spam, isn't it?

[Hilary]

I saw that you had first made a thread in the off-topic sub-forum and that it was subsequently removed, or perhaps you deleted it. delusionalwrit, while I appreciate the difficulties and vastness of putting one's own work out there, I do think it's not appropriate to come to a forum like this simply to try and get people interested in your work; this isn't Reddit and forum etiquette does work differently, I believe. If you want to approach this forum's community so that they take interest in your work, it only makes sense to reciprocate if you actually have a genuine desire to do so by participating in the community. Otherwise, it's effectively just spam, isn't it? He asked permission from me before posting and asked if it was okay to add his lucid dreaming book to the suggestion thread. I gave him permission to post it. As far as I'm concerned, I think it's a good thing to support authors who are writing about lucid dreaming. That does not mean anyone has to read his book or even look at it, but he is welcome to add the suggestion as anyone else would be welcome. That said, you are right Dark that an active member who posts here is more likely to have his stuff read.

[delusionalwrit]

I've never been against self promotion from others, but I can appreciate that others are very against "spam" and however they define it. I did anticipate getting email notifications if anyone responded to my post, but I guess it was removed. To me, I've spent the last two years working - too much, and have finally forced myself to find time to get out into this social media world. What I've found is a wall of rules. I guess I don't understand why my post would have been removed from a section about novels related to dreams, but I assume I did something wrong. Is the expectation to be able to start other kinds of conversations and then kind of vaguely and a little sketchily (seems like manipulation) add that I wrote a book. I do believe in honesty and being direct, and my book is the best thing I have to offer to others. Sure, I could speak vaguely, but how better to find people I might enjoy having a conversation with than posting about the concepts and theories I'm most excited about. I don't understand today's internet.

[Hilary]

Wow, I had no idea you were an author, Sageous. I would love to read your books.

[DarkestDarkness]

I wondered if it would be OK for me to make a reading suggestion here in the future? There's a book I have in mind, which I'm currently reading through that I thought of suggesting.

[Hilary]

I wondered if it would be OK for me to make a reading suggestion here in the future? There's a book I have in mind, which I'm currently reading through that I thought of suggesting. It's more than OK. Please, by all means.