so, how often does a pro dreamer LD?

[muskee]

curious

[namone]

I'm no expert (long from it.) However, I read one guy on here say he was able to induce them whenever he wanted; every night he could have a LD if he intended on it.

[LucidMoon]

I can only speak for myself, would say im "pro" but i have them about 3 times a week on a good week, tho sometimes i can go weeks without any. depends on how busy i am and how much time i can put into doing LD stuff.

[Kaenthem]

Well I know "pro" lucid dreamers that pretty much have from 5 to 9 lucids a week.

[Sensei]

I know a pro that gets multiple LDs 6 nights a week. I have had about 3 or 4 a week for the last 2 months and am just getting higher, but I am no where near a pro.

[ACaddict]

I'm not a pro, and my frequency fluctuates wildly. One week I get 7 or 8, then the next couple of weeks I can have none. I appear to be on a good week at the moment

[dutchraptor]

I know a pro that gets multiple LDs 6 nights a week. I have had about 3 or 4 a week for the last 2 months and am just getting higher, but I am no where near a pro. Nonsense you are most definetaly a pro, 3 Ld's a week is an amazing amount. I can get up to 8 a night if I really try but I get kinda exhausted from waking up so much and it requires me to keep a journal for a constant month which I can rarely keep up. In reality I have about 3-6 a week due to DILD but once I add DEILD the numbers can reach into the tens.

[Sensei]

Nonsense you are most definetaly a pro, 3 Ld's a week is an amazing amount. I can get up to 8 a night if I really try but I get kinda exhausted from waking up so much and it requires me to keep a journal for a constant month which I can rarely keep up. In reality I have about 3-6 a week due to DILD but once I add DEILD the numbers can reach into the tens. Thanks. they don't really ever last very long though since 53 is my running count I really haven't mastered stabilizing yet. After I get done successfully stabilizing I actually get very indecisive about what to do and just stand there till i wake up. I need to only have 1 goal at a time, but there are soooo many cool things to do! I think I will consider myself a pro when I stabilize without thinking about it and just carry on.

[MarineRecon]

Wow this is a pretty inspiring thread! It really wants me to "kick it up a notch" so I can DEILD at will hahaha!

[TheOneirologist]

My model of a "pro lucid dreamer" would be Stephen LaBerge, a professor at Stanford University. In one of his books he said that if he wants to have a lucid dream that night, he will, and if he doesn't, he won't. That's pretty amazing if you ask me.

[Sageous]

Professional LD'er's? People get paid for this? Damn. Must be nice.

[MasterMind]

To induce awareness within a dream, is easier than you think. It's to maintain it that really takes mastery. Also keep in mind that it's very difficult to define what one dream or even what one lucid dream is. If I DEILD for example I can have 9 moments of lucidity but not have a single stable lucid dream, but I can still call it 9 lucid dreams if I choose to. I have many lucidity moments each week, although I "only" have two long stable lucid dreams, perhaps two times a month. So one have, according to me, mastered the art of inducing awareness within a dream when one can (indirectly or directly) induce a lucid moment every night. What comes after that is all a matter of maintaining. I can also put an important thing to keep in mind as you work your way torwards this goal. "If you approach lucid dreaming in terms of trying, you create the oppurtunity for yourself to fail. But if you approach lucid dreaming in terms of experimentation and observation you create the oppurtunity for yourself to learn and understand."

[dms111]

"If you approach lucid dreaming in terms of trying, you create the oppurtunity for yourself to fail. But if you approach lucid dreaming in terms of experimentation and observation you create the oppurtunity for yourself to learn and understand." Cheers to that.

[OpheliaBlue]

I can only speak for myself, would say im "pro" but i have them about 3 times a week on a good week, tho sometimes i can go weeks without any. depends on how busy i am and how much time i can put into doing LD stuff. Yeah that's about where I'm at. I'll have them every night (or early morning) for several days in a row, then have a week or 2 dry spell. So I'm not a pro if the definition is to induce multiple ones every night with no problem. What I am proud of (and makes me FEEL like a pro), is before I came to DV, I only had a few a year.

[Sivason]

I would say I average about 100 good LDs in a year. Perhaps 25 of which are world class amazing LDs. I also have about 100 more unimpressive LDs that have poor recall or are less than one minute. On top of that I have an untold amount of those lucid moments that do not become real dreams and tons of semi-lucid stuff. For my own caluculations I go with just the good stuff. So about 100 a year. That comes out to about two good ones a week, but they come and go in waves. I have to admit that I am very lazy when it comes to this hobby. I could probably have more like 300ish good ones a year if I was more devoted. I work about 70 hours in many weeks, plus have a wife to keep happy and tons of other hobbies. I totally slack on DJing. This last 10 months I did journal about 95 decent LDs so people could get an idea of what I do and how, but in most years I am too lazy to really DJ. I also have really slipped with RCs to only anout two a day. I am usually too tired to try WILD and take a sleep aid on work nights. I guess I am happy to get what I get out of the hobby. I really wish I was retired, so I could be a lot more commited. Teaching on DV however has become a hobby in itself. I have such little time for social outlets, and this forum is like a little family. Thanks for that!!!

[Sageous]

I think at this point I am sort of aware in all of my dreams, but, like Sivason, I tend to score only my very high-end lucids as successes. Ironically, the better I get at this stuff, the rarer the high-end dreams (or the rarer the dreams that meet my ever rising expectations of a high-end dream). So high-end dreams? Maybe five to ten a year. But they're worth the wait. And I am retired and do spend most of my time focused on this stuff. Go figure. For what its worth, though, back in the olden days, when my brain was still young, strong, and capable of much abuse, I was having about 100 distinct LD's a month, and, though they were great fun, zero were comparable to the ten a year that I pay attention to now. Remember, it isn't the quantity that matters, but the quality.

[Mzzkc]

Remember, it isn't the quantity that matters, but the quality. This. Also, people can definitely get paid for their "skills." It's just a matter of knowing the right researchers. So, in that vein, the only professional lucid dreamer I know averages 2 +/- 1 LD a night. Though, I know a few people who consider 8 lucids a bad night.

[EbbTide000]

Wow this is a pretty inspiring thread! It really wants me to "kick it up a notch" so I can DEILD at will hahaha! Muskee I agree with MarineRecon. This thread makes me what to becom a reiable Lucid Dreamer. And I hate going Lucid. I never really tried but I would try falling into a "deep reverie" (deep daydream) and fall asleep and see if that would induce a lucid. I'm gunna try* (experiment & observe) it, every time I'm Sleepy. Sooo much GOOD input from: namone, lucidmoon, AreYouMe, BrandonBoss, ACaddict, dutchraptor, MarineRecon, TheOneiroligist, sageous, MasterMind*, dms111, OpheliaBlue, sivison, Mzzkc, Thanx to everyone who said somthing. I do hate the loneliness of lucidity. but a Great Lucid dreamer used to visit me and get me lucid but in real life (on line) he was frustrated with me. I spect to be a champion Dreamer capable of healing others and going to where they dreamt and pulling them out of their bodies and making them lucid, is lonely, thankless work.

[MarineRecon]

Well, last night I found the technique for me that works wonders! I had 5LDs that I could remember and many, many fragments. It was insane!!! All of the dreams where more realistic than life and I had to double checkt that I was dreaming before I did anything crazy hahaha . Like I wanted to jump off the banister to hit maximum velocity and teleport hahaha. It didn't work though it woke me up in my dream bed but I was expecting that to happen in the dream so I used that to my advantage for another LD! This is so amazing, I am still on the buzz about this!!!

[dutchraptor]

Well, last night I found the technique for me that works wonders! I had 5LDs that I could remember and many, many fragments. It was insane!!! All of the dreams where more realistic than life and I had to double checkt that I was dreaming before I did anything crazy hahaha . Like I wanted to jump off the banister to hit maximum velocity and teleport hahaha. It didn't work though it woke me up in my dream bed but I was expecting that to happen in the dream so I used that to my advantage for another LD! This is so amazing, I am still on the buzz about this!!! I love that feeling, it never gets old.

[TheOneirologist]

I have to admit that I am very lazy when it comes to this hobby. I could probably have more like 300ish good ones a year if I was more devoted. I work about 70 hours in many weeks, plus have a wife to keep happy and tons of other hobbies. I totally slack on DJing. This last 10 months I did journal about 95 decent LDs so people could get an idea of what I do and how, but in most years I am too lazy to really DJ. I also have really slipped with RCs to only anout two a day. I am usually too tired to try WILD and take a sleep aid on work nights. Uh...dude! You think you can get 100 LDs in a year and call that lazy? I have about one every two months--that's lazy. I'm quite envious of you, actually.

[TwoCrystalCups]

I LD like 2-3 times a week. Sometimes 4. Depending on recall. I don't write down every dream i get in DV DJ's, they are sometimes too much for reality and too erotic. lol

[presence]

I think that depends on what is counted as an "LD" here. If i am reading this forum passively and read about lucid dreaming and stuff like half an hour a day or when they are just thoughts in my mind about it, to which i give attention to every day, then i can have, let's say 4 or 5 "moments of lucidity" a week. From that moment of becoming lucid, everything depends on my subconscious, if it becomes aware that i should do some stabilizing techniques, so from those 4 or 5 moments that can last approximately 30 seconds in physical time i am maybe getting one full blown, vivid lucid dream, that can last 5-10 minutes or so. If i am doing WBTB i can have a vivid DILD, pretty much 90% of the time, that really depends on how powerful the intention, the belief and the clarity of mind is in these moments. But sometimes, if i am sleeping only 6 hours a day for a few days i can have a spontaneous chain of like 5-6 lucidity moments, that is the most fascinating thing for me, since the memory of those chains lasts for a long time, because it is so mind-blowing.

[Jabre]

I'm not a pro, and my frequency fluctuates wildly. One week I get 7 or 8, then the next couple of weeks I can have none. I appear to be on a good week at the moment yeah same happens for me. I haven't had an LD for months! I've lost the charm...

[Sivason]

It is funny but all sorts of factors will effect if I have good LDs. 4 days ago I had 1 really good long LD, and then 3 days of only little semi-lucid things barely worth noting. Last night I had 5 true LDs although I only will count 3 of them. So what is that about? I guess I saved them up?