Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post

Second, I have been practicing dream yoga for decades -- I apparently was doing so before I finally learned the term about ten years ago, and have personally experienced its "truths," which I assume is similar to being shown them...we're not all newbies here. That said, I'd like to offer a small warning: be very careful of those truths you were shown, because whatever you were shown are mere examples; the real truths you encounter in dream (and sleep) yoga are sourced not in someone else's words, but in the very heart of our souls, our nature. Do you know what else is sourced there? Imagination. Attach to what you're really experiencing the expectation of those shown truths fueled with imagination, stir it around in the center of your soul for a time, add some religious faith later, and you may brew a conceptual mix that, though it seems very deep and perfectly real, is simply a product of your own imagination, a fulfillment of your beliefs. Perhaps not, of course, but the possibility does, must, exist.

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Remember also that in the Matrix Morpheus was ultimately wrong, and it would have helped Neo deeply if he could have known how everything worked before taking that pill; It would have saved us all the need to see the next two movies!

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I hope I did not offend, Sivason, as that was not my intention. It is simply that these things are of great import to me, and sometimes I just tire of potentially worthwhile exchanges being shredded by "truths" based on faith, anecdotal experiences, and pop-culture science... Sometimes all at once. I hope you read my words with the good intentions I hold, and understand my consternation. If you cannot, then please forgive and feel free fo forget.
Actually what I believe is also from experience and I think the nature of theuniverse is created by imagination. You are 100% correct, but it fits my world view perfectly. In a maluable dream like universe (I am just saying, this one already is) any version of the truth can be true. Christians can go to heaven, people can stop existing and people can be reborn,,,,, heres the punch line again... because none of this is real in the first place, of course each of those things is very possable. So I agree with the nature and content of your warning, but as a mystic I feel it would hold me back, but thank you for mentioning it.

Sure it would help people to know what both of us have discovered, but you must admit its alot of work. I will continue to answer questions honestly and in my own style as my attempt to do my part. You are helping in the same way.But, what else can really be done. It sounds very far fetched to most people. And I never got my share of pills to hand out.

I am not offended by anything you have ever posted, you are someone who puts time and effort into your posts, and that is nice of you, sharing your hard earned knowledge freely. I agree the back and forth shared dream arguements are boring and tedious. I am just offering my explaination as per my experience. Useing the word "God" in any post is dangerous I suposse, but I almost never break out the deep spiritual stuff, the generic concept of God seemed inoffensive enough.

Keep expressing things the way you see them, I will benifit from hearing your own take on things. There are not that many dream yogi types, so it is cool to have found another. Very cool.