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      Learning new things while lucid dreaming?

      Hi everyone.

      Let me tell you a quick story. Way back when I was seven years old, I had a really strange experience with dreaming. Sadly I don't remember anything about the dream itself, but it really what happened after it which is the interesting part. One morning I simply woke up and my very first thought was "I know the clock!".

      And I did.

      It was like, the evening before I had no idea what time "half past eight" or "Twelve o'clock" was, and the next morning I knew exactly what those meant.

      At least to me, this is a proof that it is in fact possible to learn new things literally in your sleep, so I figured that it should be possible to do something similar through lucid dreaming, but I have no idea how you would go about doing that.
      So, does anyone know a way to replicate this event and have you had any similar experiences yourself?

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      Well, what lies in your unconscious is huge, some ideas and concepts get lost, and you'll have moments where they come back again, where you can feel the familiarity coming back to you. If you want to go deeper than that, it also pertains to how there's "Many of You," and by that, there's many aspects of personalities of yourself that you have within the unconscious.

      You could say the ego uses rationale to find one that suits you at a given situation, and the same rudiments can be applied to how you may feel you've learned something new. It can go subjectively, whether your mind formulates a possible skill based from what it knows already, or it could be a universal consciousness thing where it collects some aspect to help you learn something new.

      In theory, how you go about replicating these events where you learn something new, or find possible scenarios for your mind to work with, it's endless:


      • You could make a room where you would practice doing some kind of action (like balancing a soccer ball up and down with just your feet, or even learn how to memorize things more efficiently), giving you the upper hand at redefining how your mind does it like second nature.
      • Or if you want to know how to do a certain move (fighting, playing piano etc.), I guess you'd have to be REALLY open-minded, especially if you know you didn't try them out at all before. I mean, the mind can only do so much depending on how much belief you put into it that you'll learn something.


      Other than that, I could talk about deeper elements, but to stay in terms of the General Lucid Discussion, yes, I believe it's possible to learn new things while lucid dreaming. Since after all, your mind can easily creation scenarios in how to handle waking life issues and such while dreaming lucidly, or non-lucidly.
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      Wow, learning the clock in yur dream is an awesome experience. But I would guess, that it didn't come to you just out of the blue. You probably heard an explanation of the clock before, maybe someone tried to teach you, or you had some other info already in your mind from your normal daily activities, even if you didn't really pay attention to this info, you still saw it and it was stored in your mind. And in your dream, your mind just organized it for you and you had a moment of sudden realization. This doesn' make it any less cool, and of course, I could be wrong.

      It happend to me maybe once, when I had a problem, had all the info available, but just couldn't figure out a way of proceeding. Went to bed with this on my mind and when I woke up, my first thught was "I got it!". I have somehow figured it out in my sleep.

      I would say, that you can't really learn something totally new in your dream (LD), if you have no information about that what so ever. For example, I don't think I could learn japanese in my LD, since I have never studied that language, never read the dictionary or any text books.

      But you can practice and get better at things you already know or just learning. I have read that some athletes practice their sport in LD, a surgeon practiced his surgery moves, a molecule of benzen was 'invented' in LD, a periodic table of elements came to Meneleyev in a dream, and so on.

      There definitelly is a potential. Who knows, maybe in the future, when everybody is LDing, that's how we'll practice and learn.

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      I know someone who has had lucid dreams and used them to figure out technical problems in waking life.
      Unfortunately, I've not been able to do this. I have gotten some story ideas inspired from dreams, though.
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      I really like this idea. It gives a whole new meaning to "I'll sleep on it". Once I get the hang of lucid dreaming, I'll be sure to perform experiments with this new idea.

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      Personally, I don't necessarily think you can ''learn" in your dreams. I think its a VERY good place to observe your unconscious. For instance, in highschool, I usually had to study for tests a lot, but one of my exams (chemistry,) I didn't get much time to study, and I didn't think I knew much about the topic. I went to bed earlier than usual. I had a dream about being in the chemistry classroom as if a class was going on. I became lucid somehow and the teacher called on me and told me to show an example on the board. I started writing, and out of nowhere I was able to remember almost everything I had learned about the subject and it all made sense to me. The whole dream I spent writing on the board example upon example of equations and definitions.

      The whole "you only retain 5% of what you hear" statement might be true, because you cannot consciously recall certain things. But I believe if you're unconscious has interpreted something once, you can retrieve that information somehow. I think this is what I did in the dream that I mentioned. I believe dreams are vast and constantly expanding because they are a characterization of your unconscious and subconscious. New information is added every day, whether you know it or not.

      I think if you were very good at controlling your unconscious, you could be able to "learn" many things in your dreams. Not new info, but old info, that your conscious cannot retrieve without the help of your unconscious.


      TL;DR Your dreams bring out information your unconscious has perceived before, that your conscious mind could not remember. At least in my opinion
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      I learned to tie a tie in a dream, the day before I couldn't do it at all, it was explained through example in the dream, and when I woke up I could do it.
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      I have noticed that when I study speaking french in my dreams or while I meditate I can remember a huge amount of information way more than in a real life situation.
      My brother however did have a dream after he was drawing but couldn't get the water of the flowing river right. Then as he napped he dreamed he saw the river turn to a grid explaining perfectly how to shade water. And he did and it looked quite good.
      In this case it almost seems like the brain made up a method of drawing based on its previous sightings of water without my brother ever having to practise it, I think it's because deep down our unconscious minds are the real masters of reasoning, not effected by emotions or desire but purely by past experience.
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      I compose music. I have written a couple pieces in dreams, non lucid mind you, that were still in my head when I woke up and I was able to grab an instrument and make a quick recording. One of them is one of the best things I've ever written.

      Music is present a lot in my dreams and many times there are songs or instrumental pieces that are entirely original but I can't remember enough of the melody when I'm awake, but the couple times I was able to remember it was pretty good stuff.

      I also practiced a new swimming stroke in a dream once and the next time I went to a pool I was able to do it. Mind you, I already knew how to swim by that point, but that was a stroke I hadn't been taught.
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      Back in 2000 I had 30 days of dreams, all of them I was being taught by 12 spiritual beings. They all had long white hair long beards and long mustashs that hung long and they all wore white. But their faces were all different. I woke up every morning in deep conversation with these beings. Everytime I woke up I would have everything I was taught fresh in my mind but after a few seconds of being awake I would totally forget everything I was taught.

      This was very abnormal for me because I always remembered my dreams. I never had any problems remembering. So I was really shocked when it just disappeared out of my mind. My roommate at the time said I was doing a lot of talking in my sleep when I asked her what my conversations were about she said she couldn't understand what I was saying but I was talking a for a very long time. I slept on the couch because my dreams were more vivid there for some reason, it faced North and South. She would get up and get ready for work while I laid there sleeping. That's how she knew I was talking in my sleep.

      Everyday I woke up I would tell my roommate that I was being taught in my sleep. I was infuriated by the fact I couldn't remember anything. 30 days of remembering nothing. Well the last day of training I was able to remember the last thing I was taught. I was taught how to use my Third Eye. It was like looking at a TV screen and seeing everything all truths. And I was shocked at how easy it was accessed. I kept doing it. Using my Third Eye not using it and again and again. I was waking up while practicing it, so I was going to write it down before it left my brain. It was gone! Again! I couldn't believe it. I remembered learning but I couldn't remember HOW.

      I was telling my mother about my dreams and how I kept forgetting it and how it drove me crazy thinking about it. Why teach me something that I would not remember? My mother replied when you need it, the information will return. Which makes perfect sense. If I need it when the time comes I'll remember it. I was happy with that answer.

      The next night while I was trying to go to sleep I kept seeing the family room. I could swear my eyes were shut but I kept seeing the family room. I reached and touched my eyes and was shocked to find out they were actually shut. But I could see! I could see everything, even the show on the TV. With my eyes shut. That's when I realized I was using my Third Eye with out even trying. I think that was a sign for me to know when I need it I will have all the information that I was taught. I never saw the 12 spiritual beings again.

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      I wake up at whatever time I tell myself to, so for your subconscious to know the clock seems right.

      I believe that we can find true creativity in dreams.

      My definition of creativity:
      Taking one or more things and using it in a way never before thought of.

      So Pintrest is the opposite of creativity, no matter what the girls tell me.

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      @BrandonBoss have you found creativity yet? mind sharing an example ?

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      I think that almost every dream is completely creative, especially the "out there" ones. I plan on going on an adventure to find creativity (instead of asking a DC I just go look for it, I don't want it to be easy because "When everything you could ever want can be yours with a word, the journey is the reward").

      When you are dreaming you are in fact being creative, just subconsciously. You are creating an entire world, so it is completely creative. Next time you are dreaming fly up and watch the sunset or sunrise. I have only been able to do this once, but it was the most amazing thing ever. It rivaled the dream I had when I was younger that my family went on a trip and stopped at the sunrise. We danced there (There was a huge wall almost like the Truman Show) until it got dark. I am not normally one for dancing, but that was amazing. Every time I am in a dream I check all my surroundings and look at the world that was made. non LDs are very fun to remember as well, because I can think about the world then as well, just less freedom.

      So finding it is just looking around in dreams is seeing creativity in action. The clashing together of worlds in your mind.

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      I've heard many stories of people coming up with solutions in dreams to problems in the real world. I have yet to experience this myself but it will be interesting when I do



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      Well, I guess the reply with quote isn't working. Vinny, I have composed music in dreams that I remembered when I woke up. Some of it was not good, but a couple pieces were quite good. Also, I think you can maybe practice something that you have read how to do or seen a video. Your brain already has the requisite information in that case.

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      OH! and I wish to memorize things when I am in a dream! I am thinking memorizing a scripture and then have an adventure based around the verse. That should make me memorize this. Don't say I can't read in dreams, I do it in non LDs all the time! I just need to make sure that I am memorizing real scripture instead of dream scripture!

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