You do realize that not all religions believe in an afterlife and not all atheists believe in no-afterlife, right? |
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I'm indifferent to this subject; When someone tells you you're about to die, your mind starts racing. "I've so much yet to do in my life!" "Why me?" "What's going to happen after death?" That side would be the fear of death. The reason it might not be so bad is that after you die, you won't care anymore. You can't grieve over yourself, and there's no proof of religion, only proof against it, so you don't need to fear what God will think of you. But the real part is the people who will miss you, and the people who believe that there is no God. The latter believes that consciousness is generated by a series of electrical impulses and synapses. Memory access is also this, so you're literally taking memories of smelling Grandma's cookies right to the grave with you. No one can revive you and access your wisdom, or know what you were like as a person. The former believes that when you die, you're judged by Jesus/God based on your life decisions. |
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You do realize that not all religions believe in an afterlife and not all atheists believe in no-afterlife, right? |
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Let's try to keep religion out of this as much as possible, please. |
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The bird breaks free of the egg.
The egg is the world.
Who would to be born must first destroy a world.
What if, when it comes to eternal physical suffering in the afterlife, we are assigned a new body instead of being a floating body-less soul? We automatically assume that when we leave our third dimensional body, we are left with none. That makes sense of course, but what if this wasn't the case? The only thing we can do at this point is make assumptions instead of accusations or claims. Blind faith is all we have to go by. Perhaps in the future when science reaches a completely new level, we would know what happens. I heard that Nikola Tesla was planning on a device to communicate with the dead. |
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I'm a Christian, so I do not fear it. When I physically die, I will look forward to chillin with Jesus in another plane of reality known as Heaven. I also believe that an additional plane of reality exists known as Hell, to which the unsaved end up when they die. |
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Last edited by Jacob46719; 07-14-2014 at 09:03 AM.
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I think at the moment of death I might be a little scared that there is nothing after this life, but overall I don't fear it that much. I'm more worried of how I will die. |
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I am horrified of dying. |
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I fear death, but only my own not death in general, idk what will happen to me in the afterlife if there is such a thing (I would like to believe so) but one thing is fact, once an organism dies its elemental components are released into its environment which creates greater opritunity for new life, death is simply a doorway to new life and its okay to e afraid of what's on the other side, the trick is to get over the fear and try to live happily while your still alive. Death isn't an agent of evil, death and life are two sides of the same coin. |
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Last edited by Absozero; 07-14-2014 at 08:37 AM.
And as far as what this has to do with lucid dreaming, as a child I dreamt of being killed or my mother dying or my dad being cooked alive infront of me regularly so I learned to LD early, funny how fear forces you to get a grip or go mad |
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Last edited by Absozero; 07-14-2014 at 08:52 AM.
Immortality is not the same as invulnerability. You can still die if you want to, or when someone kills you. But not by time. I also hope that we invent this in our life-time. I think it is possible that we might. If not I will probably let my brain be frozen until there is immortality. |
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Lucid Dream Goal:
A perfect week!
One week with at least 1 Lucid Dream in every night.
I agree, true immortality is almost as terrifying as mortality, and it hit me pretty hard a few years ago. |
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I think everyone fears death at one time or another. To not fear death at all--ever--seems unrealistic to me--regardless as to whether you think Jesus, Odin, Vishnu, or Bob Sagat is going to pat you on the back on the other side, or whether or not you think you are going to be reborn, or realize nirvana or whatever. We don't know what happens. Unknown things are both scary and exciting. So, I believe when most people say they have no fear of death, they are either posturing or are telling themselves what they would like to be true. Either that, or they are too young yet to truly feel that they will die. Give it twenty or thirty years. Death will wait to be appreciated |
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Last edited by ThreeCat; 07-14-2014 at 06:28 PM.
In my opinon, the main reason you(me, and alot of people for that matter)are afraid of death is the fact that it's so uncertain. If you are a religious person you probably believe in an afterlife and thats fine, but even then you are not certain exactly where you will end up(hell,heaven,asgard,rencarnation?) |
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You can't remember what it felt like when you were circumcised (if this happened) or when the doctor spanked your butt, but they still hurt. Likewise, just because you can't remember something doesn't mean it didn't happen and that it isn't still buried in your psyche somewhere. So, maybe we have just forgotten what it felt like before this life: similar to how we forget many non-lucid dreams upon awakening. |
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I think this is very on-topic. Athene's Theory of Everything - YouTube |
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I don't have a religion so I'm one of those guys who thinks this is your only time to be alive. I do not want to die as I have a strong appreciation for the way life is but I don't really mind if I do die, honestly for me time seems to take so long to go by. I am satisfied with 18 years of being on this earth and would not mind knowing tommorow was my last day. I would never want to be immortal as that would defeat all the excitement out of life for me. Death isn't as scary as it's made out to be nor in life threating situations is it as scary as the movies, in life threating situations majority of the time you will not have the time to think about such things as " my futures gone or I die at this age ". To me I like the idea that death exist as it makes things much more interesting, no one can fully say they know what happens after death and that curiosity never seems to go away. It's what help made majority of the religions out there and it's also another way of giving people motivation. I like the excitement of being in danger and making it out of such situations, it gives me a better sense of understanding of myself. If you over think anything you'll make it into something it's not, I don't think others fear death as much as they say they do. |
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Last edited by ViIe; 07-15-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Don't want it to end.
DILD: 342| WILD: 13 | DEILD: 10 | FILD: 2 | MILD: 13 | OBE: 6 |
I think what Ezio means is that episodic memory is very bad in children up to the age of three. Young kids can remember certain things (like what their favorite color is, what "hot" means, who their parents are) but in terms of asking kids to tell you about the last time they went fishing, or something like that, most of the time there is nothing there. Every once in a while, they might remember that they went to a hockey game with Uncle Bud, but for the most part, babies (and kids until the age of three or four) don't remember narratives. |
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Last edited by ThreeCat; 07-15-2014 at 04:57 PM. Reason: oops
Interesting question -- especially on a lucid dreaming forum! |
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Nah, i dont fear it since its inevitable. No matter what happens after death i wont fear it since everybody have to face it. |
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Good point, but in the video the guy makes a mention about how you don't really worry about the past since it's past. |
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A true Christian doesn't fear death because they are certain in their belief and look forward to a grand eternity. However, if one isn't a believer, why fear the ultimate culmination or fulfillment of life, which is death and unconscious oblivion? You were not worried about these things 100 years ago before being born, so why worry about what is afterward? Many of you are young...as you get older death becomes much less fearful. Anyway, it's our price for getting the privilege of life. |
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