Well, that's basically where I was going at first when I said that you don't work for techniques, they work for you. Then I just got off on a tangent soap box. Oops, sorry. I'm only on here at night, after work, and usually while drinking. Hehe

But I'm glad that we ended up on this topic because I now have what I think is the ultimate way to become the ideal LDer!!! I believe this truly is a way to not just have lucid dreams but to actually BE a lucid dreamer! See this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...ml#post2132989