Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

He's kinda right. I mean just think about for a second.

I did. It still feels entirely normal to me.

I honestly can't understand what would be so weird about it. A higher state of consciousness = weird?

Not in my book.

XeL, it really doesn't matter what your thoughts on it are. Or anyone else's here.

To the average person (i.e. your parents) who aren't aware of these abilities, it is considered out-of-the-ordinary, wierd, and perhaps even paranormal by some.

I for one, do not blame them.

Its not a question of blame. Its just that people shouldn't be so opposed to something they hardly know anything about. Making assumptions about lucid dreaming is not helpful, and parents have a tendency to think that whatever they say to a child (or teenager) is right, and they are wrong.

Originally Posted by Aledrea

Its fun talking about it, cuse they just stare at you wide-eyed thinking ur the best at it and everything, and it's fun to tell ur stories too that's the best part.

This makes me wish more of my friends were into LDing.

I have the solution to everyone who's experienced these problems with family members.
All you need to do is to find/build a time machine, travel back to when you first made the mistake and stop yourselves from telling them.....simple enough? Shouldn't be too hard to keep the secret as it's something you mainly do while sleeping.
You're welcome

Those were some good lulz

How is the entire concept of dreaming not weird?



[Alt-text: And the possibility of lucid dreaming just makes it that much more fascinating.]

Haha, I love that comic. =)

No offense, but a lot of your parents are really stupid.

I love that comic. It makes you think about how so many terms for complex things are taken lightly, when they can sound so funny.

Originally Posted by Odd_Nonposter

How is the entire concept of dreaming not weird?



[Alt-text: And the possibility of lucid dreaming just makes it that much more fascinating.]

Don't do weed lucid dream.

Originally Posted by lVlerciless

My parents think that having Lucid Dreams is like witch craft, and evil shit, and I keep trying to tell them that all it is is realizing you're dreaming when you're dreaming, and none of that stuff is involved...

Do your guys' parents misinterpret this too? If so, how did you finally convince them this is totally normal, and not witch craft or any of that stuff? I even showed them the homepage where it says that many people ignorant of Lucid dreaming think it is an occult, and they still do not believe me...

Please help?

I just remembered something. Tell your religous parents how much dreams are used in the bible. God would use dreams to communicate with humans and show them visions of the future. I believe god still does this so LDing is just a way to raise awareness in something that is very spiritual and not evil. Perhaps this is why shared dreams may be possible?

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

I just remembered something. Tell your religous parents how much dreams are used in the bible. God would use dreams to communicate with humans and show them visions of the future. I believe god still does this so LDing is just a way to raise awareness in something that is very spiritual and not evil. Perhaps this is why shared dreams may be possible?

Truly the best thing for religious nuts who think it's demonic.

I was watching a video on some site last night which said that St. Jerome intentionally mistranslated the Bible to include dream studies in a list of bad stuff including necromancy. I don't know if/when that was fixed. I gather that had a significant influence on how Christianity viewed dreams for a long time.

I never liked Jerome since A-level English lit. He had a scary dream about his own death and judgement, then took it upon himself to make sure dreams were actively discouraged by the most powerful religion in the world for the next few centuries. He was also afraid of sex.

Originally Posted by J.D.

I was watching a video on some site last night which said that St. Jerome intentionally mistranslated the Bible to include dream studies in a list of bad stuff including necromancy. I don't know if/when that was fixed. I gather that had a significant influence on how Christianity viewed dreams for a long time.

I never liked Jerome since A-level English lit. He had a scary dream about his own death and judgement, then took it upon himself to make sure dreams were actively discouraged by the most powerful religion in the world for the next few centuries. He was also afraid of sex.

That's sad. =/

Originally Posted by J.D.

I was watching a video on some site last night which said that St. Jerome intentionally mistranslated the Bible to include dream studies in a list of bad stuff including necromancy. I don't know if/when that was fixed. I gather that had a significant influence on how Christianity viewed dreams for a long time.

I never liked Jerome since A-level English lit. He had a scary dream about his own death and judgement, then took it upon himself to make sure dreams were actively discouraged by the most powerful religion in the world for the next few centuries. He was also afraid of sex.

Pft... Loser

I guess dreaming is evil then. Nothing special about lucidity other than awareness. So I guess seeing something odd in a dream and realizing it is a dream is also evil. People fear what they don't understand. Sleep paralysis is quite scientific and the process of entering sleep paralysis can be duplicated over and over. Controlling your dreams... people can argue about that, but I figure it GOD wants to send me a message he can be pick the other 99% of the time when I'm not lucid... or even if I am... even better.. I'll probably remember the dream more clearly that way.

Originally Posted by J.D.

I was watching a video on some site last night which said that St. Jerome intentionally mistranslated the Bible to include dream studies in a list of bad stuff including necromancy. I don't know if/when that was fixed. I gather that had a significant influence on how Christianity viewed dreams for a long time.

I never liked Jerome since A-level English lit. He had a scary dream about his own death and judgement, then took it upon himself to make sure dreams were actively discouraged by the most powerful religion in the world for the next few centuries. He was also afraid of sex.

A perfect example of condemning that which one doesn't understand. Since he feared it, he didn't want to go through it again, but instead of utilizing intelligence that we now obviously possess and are aware of, and study dreaming to learn about why he would dream about such a thing, he just used his fear to turn dreams into propaganda for himself to push dreams out of his life. However, that's caused so much confusion and misunderstanding for so many people like us, many years later.

How selfish!

i wrote this in another thread, but i would love input from people in this thread also!

Originally Posted by James2302

on another note, there is a thread in DV, about how some peoples parents think that Lucid Dreaming is demonic and whatnot, found here. so in response to that, i created a simple power point presentation on what lucid dreaming is, how it is not dangerous, and how it is not demonic and is scientifically proven. i wanted your input and opinions on it. i would love any revisions, comments, suggestions, improvements, and additions any of you think are necessary. thanks!

here is the link http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B448...N2I5NDFi&hl=en i think the format is power point 2007.

Well, I know my mom does it even though she doesn't know what it's called.

My parents don't even know I have dreams for goodness sakes. I never talk about dreams irl, I just go to forums like these.

Originally Posted by Seeker

I've talked to my parents about it and they still ask me: "Are you still interested in dream interpretation??

See if you can find a copy of Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming for them to read. Maybe if they see there has been scientific investigation done on the subject they will understand better.

Originally Posted by MementoMori

Yeah, just present them with the scientific studies done on it. If they're too blind to look at facts and the studies then just leave them be. I know how you feel, I have a step-father that believes anything but hard manual labor and chores is lazy, evil, or unconstitutional. I hate parents like that.

The only problem with convincing religious parents with scientific material is that - religion doesn't appreciate science too much ... No, actually real religion in my opinion supports, but just doesn't get stuck with it. Real witchcraft is the thing when you don't even question why you are here and why do you do those things you do (like the religious acts you do).

In all honesty, there is enough literature out there to back it up. If you simply tell your parents, without going into huge amounts of detail to the point they think your brain is cloudy, (easy enough to assume that if you're listening to someone that LD's regularly and it's the first time you really heard it before), that dreaming is a scientific phenominon, and at the very least it lets you explore the spiritual side of things that much more, lending you knowledge.

If they are that seriously doubtful, try and give them some links to stuff on the net that isn't overly saturated with opinion, and more backed up as something that as a whole, humanity is finally kind of pawing at it like an old forgotten toy, (yet one we know so well, but the minut details about the toy only come back after spending some time with it again etc).

It's hard for me to relate, I've never been told not to explore something I'm curious about unless it might be very harmful to me later.

I haven't read every response in this thread, (I will eventually I'm sure), but just from the OP's topic, you're basically facing people that don't, and won't believe the truth that is out there because it might be a little too big for them. Some of us, (including myself) get used to things being just - so, and alot of people don't want to acknowledge true change and what it might mean, because the basis of that change might challenge everything they've ever believed in, and coincidently, start pulling it apart by the seams.

Originally Posted by CourtingTheUnknown

ic, you're basically facing people that don't, and won't believe the truth that is out there because it might be a little too big for them. s.

I don't think that's how they view it. I think most of the worry comes from the fact that people say that their brain does things that theirs doesn't, so they presume it to be a deviation from the norm and this bad/harmful/unnatural/etc

honestly ppl, if you are having this much trouble refer em to the wikipedia page on lucid dreaming- even a religious/superstitious person won't argue with wikipedia.

Erhem. Everyone knows religion is blind. At least to science, as someone was saying above. The way I see it, if your parents are going to ignore the facts, their opinion is worthless.