Scary stuff, isn't it? On the plus side you can always return to your body and end the experience. |
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I wandered in here out of curiosity as to whether or not there is anyone else here that has had experiences close to mine. I've had out of body experiences my entire life. I never had to use any techniques or "learn" how to do it. I've also been a sensitive and had a very broad spectrum of paranormal experiences. Presumably, those who believe in OBEs and the multiple phases & dimensions of existence also recognize that these "other" realms have their own environmental features including inhabitants & threats. I read a couple of threads that asserted that the paralysis terror experience is false in that it is simply normal fear associated with an unfamiliar experience. I believe that, in the interest of avoiding a serious disservice to readers (potentially putting them in harms way) these posts should be modified to disclose that, while sometimes they may be this simple fear of the unknown.... these experiences are not always benign. I can testify that negative entities can sometimes take advantage of this 'between state' and can apparently induce or prolong this paralysis. A person can fight back but it is very difficult, and takes practice. |
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Last edited by Transponder; 01-10-2018 at 06:00 PM.
Scary stuff, isn't it? On the plus side you can always return to your body and end the experience. |
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I understand that you're a moderator, but feel the need to respond anyway. Yes..... it can be scary, but it can also be a perfect learning ground. I've observed that when confronted with a dark entity (and I can tell the difference) an incredibly debilitating fear can take over the experience, but I've detected a sense that this fear does not always originate within our own minds.... that this "feeling" of terror can somehow be projected upon us (or triggered within us) by the confronting entity, and that this fear can be so dominating that it is difficult to focus enough to effectively invoke the kind of spiritual affirmations that can neutralize the threat (no doubt by design). I've discovered that (consistent with standard spiritual energy manipulation mechanics) it isn't enough to speak the words, or even to think the thoughts. Reciting a spiritual mantra sometimes has no effect or benefit. I've learned that this is because the true power does not come from the words or thoughts.... it comes from the creation of the vibration within our center. We THINK its the words and thoughts, because in our waking state.... words and thoughts can often trigger the creation of the vibration within our center.... but when in the other realm.... if our center is overwhelmed by fear.... standard words and thoughts are not enough to neutralize the controlling negative experience and replace it with the positive one. I've learned that it takes a more focused concentration on one's actual center. It's seriously hard in the face of induced terror.... but that is the nature of a learned discipline, and I am getting better. I am no longer terrified of being terrified. I am confident that I can survive... and that I can defend myself.... and so, when in the state of terror.... I don't automatically try to flee. I take advantage of the opportunity to stand my ground... to face my attacker... and to gradually learn how to reassert control over my own frequency manifestations. I'm not sure you recognize the severity of what I am describing. I can feel physical contacts... sometimes in the form of gripping "hands". I have been able to muster enough focus to reach out and grab the entity myself, and to look directly into its face. Sometimes I then "pop" awake.... and sometimes the entity, itself, vanishes. The "point" of all of this.... is that I feel like I have stumbled upon a kind of self-defense "learning process".... that should be a topic of general conversation.... if others are to benefit. |
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Last edited by Transponder; 01-11-2018 at 10:15 PM.
Very good, I will share. First run in when they got "in my face" ended with me chasing one through a wall and on the other side was a man who forced eye contact with me. I suddenly could not move. Three entities came close and examined me for awhile before attempting to confuse me with a false awakening. I woke on my grandma's couch. Grandma was there. She was balancing a stack of pillows she had been making. I told her I knew this was still a dream, pointing out that her pillows were at least an inch above her hand. Suddenly Grandma morphs into the first entity and he makes eye contact. I am again frozen and examined. I force myself awake. |
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This is fascinating, I am trying to get into astral projection. I've been heavily interested in it for about a year. Still never succeeded. Got a feeling it's something to do with what I'm smoking, I've not been getting lucid either. Quitting soon |
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Last edited by slash112; 01-14-2018 at 05:27 PM.
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Dealing with the terror response certainly helps you to be willing to continue. However, if we make the assumption that this stuff is real, you need experience. The OP mentioned looking the entity in the face, and forcing himself awake. It would be kind of like saying to survive a bully on a school field all you need is to get past the fear. To a large degree and in many settings that is enough for the bully to loose interest. However, if the bully keeps picking on you, it may be time to learn the basics of fighting. Most bullies will stop if one fights back, even if you are not as tough as them. But your skills need to be credible enough to give them pause. |
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Ahh, that's great advice, thank you! I will keep that in mind. |
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Last edited by slash112; 01-15-2018 at 04:36 AM.
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I AM NOT SURE, BECAUSE I ONLY TRUST MY EXPERIENCE. There are area where the things are like ghosts, they are drawn to life and want to touch you. Something like that could be a lower level or dimension with in the astral. I have never run into an area seeming filled with random people's thoughts. But hey, it is large like the universe. I have only traveled areas relating to reaching a certain city and travel from there to a much smaller city. I have been in other areas due to getting lost and have had weird run ins with darker entities of various forms. Just out side some areas are many strange animals. Endless fun. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 01-17-2018 at 02:42 AM.
Aw man that sounds awesome. I can't wait to have experiences of my own. |
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Last edited by Joshuayew; 01-18-2018 at 08:02 AM.
Sorry bro. You're coo coo for cocopuffs. I legitimately recommend therapy. Otherwise, look up Thomas Campbell. He goes over his equally batty beliefs. Rather in depth stuff about self-defense in the astral plane. Quite interesting, if complete BS. |
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They very well may call LD crazy, but lucid dreaming has been emperically proved with science. We can see the rational part of the brain light up on an MRI, while a person has a lucid dream. Astral travel, dream sharing, and other beings have not. |
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Last edited by StygianThemis; 04-23-2018 at 07:21 PM.
Lucid dreaming was proved by science, only after a very long time of not being proved. |
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My point was there is a profoundly simple way to prove it. Not that if science hasn't discovered something it doesn't exist. Don't strawman my argument. |
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Nobody is trying to push his beliefs or experiences onto you. We come here to share our experiences with like-minded people. Nobody is making you to read or respond. And by golly, absolutely nobody is asking you to help us find a cure for our craziness. |
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Wow. I am glad to have read this entire thread. It was really interesting. I think that there are like other dimensions, and beings there. I don't think they would participate in scientific studies though. Especially if keeping out of the broader human awareness gives them an advantage. |
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Ya, see, I do my best not to hold beliefs. |
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Last edited by Jewel; 04-24-2018 at 09:17 PM.
Haha slash, EXACTLY. Very well put, same here. I had a lot of really crazy and awesome, out of this world incredible experiences. I don't necessarily know what it was exactly, even if I found a similar description from others. |
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StygianThemis, I can see where you’re coming from here, but next time you want to give someone advice, maybe don’t start by calling them crazy? Examining things from multiple angles is wonderful advice, but not only does it make people less receptive to it when you precede it by a simplistic diagnosis— it makes it look as if you aren’t following it yourself. |
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I just want to share my experience. I am definitely not saying anyone is wrong, just stating my experience. I certainly would not assume someone is crazy, as one person suggested. |
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I was thinking of OP's post last night and the thing he said about sort of responding on a vibrational level. Which would be deeper than words or thoughts or motions. There were some ghosties during a DEILD transition but I am okay now. |
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Last edited by Charles3; 04-25-2018 at 09:06 PM.
I hope your wife, won't find about your dream adventures, by reading your dream journal accidentally. |
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