Dream State Self Defense

[Transponder]

I wandered in here out of curiosity as to whether or not there is anyone else here that has had experiences close to mine. I've had out of body experiences my entire life. I never had to use any techniques or "learn" how to do it. I've also been a sensitive and had a very broad spectrum of paranormal experiences. Presumably, those who believe in OBEs and the multiple phases & dimensions of existence also recognize that these "other" realms have their own environmental features including inhabitants & threats. I read a couple of threads that asserted that the paralysis terror experience is false in that it is simply normal fear associated with an unfamiliar experience. I believe that, in the interest of avoiding a serious disservice to readers (potentially putting them in harms way) these posts should be modified to disclose that, while sometimes they may be this simple fear of the unknown.... these experiences are not always benign. I can testify that negative entities can sometimes take advantage of this 'between state' and can apparently induce or prolong this paralysis. A person can fight back but it is very difficult, and takes practice. In reading forums like this, I see a lot of teaching about achieving astral projection experiences (which are very close to lucid dreaming experiences- and are often, in essence, a simultaneous experience), but I don't see enough about self-protection in an experience that is fraught with peril. This is like encourage people to hike out into the jungle without first educating them about the dangers that exist there. I have also read about the ritualistic things that people can to do here, in the physical world, that will supposedly protect them from being "overshadowed", "possessed", or otherwise accosted, but these concepts do not really address learning about and mastering techniques that person can use for self-defense while IN the spiritual realm. As a consequence, I've been having to learn this on my own... more or less the "hard" way, that is... through trial and error. Fortunately, I have learned a good amount... and am gaining some genuine ability..... but, ultimately, I would be interested in comparing notes with someone else who seriously knows what I am talking about.... and has experienced it first hand. Take my word for it.... dark creatures are real... up to and including demons of varying strength & intensity, and with varying ability to affect the physical world. In the physical world, the energy that we are able to generate with our physical bodies gives us an advantage, but in the astral world (if we call it that) THEY have the advantage... just as sharks do in the ocean. In that realm... their power is much stronger. Anyway... I know this from decades of first hand, real experience. For those who might doubt... certain kinds of physical manifestations... and certain kinds of very lucid experiences.... leave no room for uncertainty.... that these kinds of things are not always figments of a person's imagination.... though (obviously) this does not mean that "some" experiences by some people can't be figments of their imagination. In short, as I indicated, I'd be interested in comparing notes with others that have experienced what I am talking about.... and know it to be real, because it seems to me.... that we should be spending a little more time talking about how to navigate the dangers once we get there.... than simply on the techniques for getting there.