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    Side notes: Instructions from gurus can be a real turn-off...

    by , 11-02-2010 at 02:44 PM (447 Views)
    I spoke to one of my gurus about my lucid dreams and he gave me some new directives, so I might have to change my commitment to the ToTY, ToTM and RPG's tasks, 'cause I need to be full-time focused on the tasks he gave to me.
    My teacher also told me to relax and not to be so obsessed about having lucids every night and to once in a while not even care about recall - just sleep. He realised my excitement about LDs and shared dreams and the whole shebang and he said I was getting too amused with my dream experiences. The objective of my dream practice is not to develop a whole alternative life, but simply to train the mind to realise it's only in a dream and to carry it on to awaken life.
    He told me to whenever I become lucid, just sit and medidate. I was not happy about it, but I know he is right, so I will do that as much as possible.
    Flying and sending laser beams from my 3rd eye and meeting other LDers is fun, but my goal is enlightnement, so I must not get stuck on fun.

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    1. Samael's Avatar
      The objective of my dream practice is not to develop a whole alternative life, but simply to train the mind to realise it's only in a dream and to carry it on to awaken life.
      That's interesting, because I've seen the same process carried out for the opposite reason: remain aware throughout the day so you can recognize when you're dreaming. I think that no matter how we go about it, by working with our dreams we are all (to some extent) on the same path. By improving recall we improve awareness, etc. etc.. Even if our goals are slightly different, we're actually working on a very similar set of mental skills.

      Would you be willing to share a couple of the tasks he gave you?
    2. Baron Samedi's Avatar
      I disagree. You do not develop a second life. You become aware of it. Awareness of all is pure lucidity. Becoming "too amused" is a subjective judgment call. If you are neglecting your physical body's health, or other important things in waking life because of dreaming, it's a problem. If not, have fun. A Senoi idea is you can never have too much love in a dream, or too much fun. It's your lucid dream.

      Enlightenment is simply realizing you already are enlightened.
    3. Mayatara's Avatar
      For Samael... It works both ways: being aware during the day helps being aware at night and being aware at night transforms our view of daily life - we end up realising it is also dream-like. But since I achieved the first part (and have LDs), I should now work on the second part a bit more.
      About the tasks, it's actually only one - didn't express myself correctly - and no, I'm not supposed to share what it consists of, but basically it is a visualization before meditation.

      For Nomad.... You're right, we simply become aware of this second life that is there already, but my master said it in a relative way - when you become aware of it and get too involved on it, you get as stuck on (attached to) this second life as you are to the awaken life. Dreams should have same importance of waking life, in the sense they are both illusory. He merely tried to refrain me from substituting my attachment for awaken life for a new attachment to dream life.