Thread: Dream Control Mastery Tutorial

Originally Posted by Sageous

Excellent concept though; I only hope I properly understand it!

I think you got it right. I just made it up yesterday though, what can i say, I guess i'm inspired. But yea, you have created extra memories of time. Mylenes' mentioned the book example and i think it is a okay analogue but my explanation might be more to the point and truthful, lol. You are indeed doing interesting things with the concept of time itself in dreams. That is interesting, don't you think? I think Mylenes is a genius for thinking this up. I just spend hours yesterday trying to understand what he means and I think I get it now.

Agreed... and advanced LD'ing is an excellent tool for discovering that console, finding out who is manning it (i.e., us or Him), and maybe learning how to work it at will ...

* Erase everything from your dream, including any trace of your own DC dream body and its tools for perception. Then consider where you are.

I see it now, it really is inspiring me to do more lucid dreaming. I think this example you gave here is quite a useful starting point as well. Did you do this? What conclusions did you come to? Where are you!?

However, I believe the rest of that esoteric belief wraps around the concept that, once God installed sentience into our beings, He lost the ability to control us, to directly oversee us as though we were a part of Him (as He does the angels). In other words: yes, God divided Himself up into multiple bits, but even He could not include His own self-awareness in us when we became sentient -- our self-awareness trumped His. I wonder if He was really annoyed, or really excited by that?

Well it essentially implies that we are god. Just like in the dream example, there still is that connection to the Original lucid dreamer. But I have seen someone imply that god is actually "sorry" for his creation, speaking for all the wrong-doers and demons and suffering. It kind of spiraled out of control while god just divided up his consciousness in the first place simply because he was lonely. Now there's a whole sentient universe and some irreversable process is taking place. Neat little theory

I'll come back to that list of urs and try them out in lucid dreams. Very interesting practices you mention here Sageous, thanks a lot for sharing mate!

Originally Posted by LouaiB

Now I understand what you mean! Multi-tasking 2 dreams. The car example was helpful, but I am skeptic that, even with the conscious and unconscious working very 'close', you would still store the 2 different memories so well. Conscious attention is different than unconscious attention. When we do a thing, we have all our attention to it, but multi-tasking splits our attention. How does the unconscious add more attention to that equation? Again, the car example is splitting conscious attention, which will store events to the memory.

tl;dr: Splitting your attention to 2 different dreams is experiencing each one with half the experience. The unconscious attention doesn't exactly add experience to the episodic memory. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I agree with your skepticism. That is why i think we should really just try it to see what happens. And how does the unconscious add more attention to that equation? Well.. In the same way that the unconscious controls sentient-like behaviour in a DC in dreams, right?

Try insulting a DC. It looks like it is offended or it can react with indifference. Either way, it suggest a cognitive process of "Feeling insulted, or feeling above the insult" is taking place. But in reality there is no congnitive process, you just simply see the DC react as if it was another person with his own thoughts-process outside of yourself.

The unconscious attention doesn't exactly add experience to the episodic memory.

Or it does, maybe. When you experiencing awareness in all ur clones in a dream you are not exactly unconscious. I really think i agree that you have only half-attention but you still have a decent portion of awareness on all the clones so you do make extra memories. It is probably not that extreme a form of time extention.

PS: Take me with a grain of salt, i might say some stupid things its just that I guess i'm inspired and i don't feel like letting this go anything soon
PSPS: Aah, i see i have missed a part of the conversation >_<