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Last edited by Zoth; 12-22-2013 at 03:20 PM.
Man this is such a common question amongst lucid dreamers and potential lucid dreamers that I went ahead and wrote a full blog post on it: [please post the text instead of the link]. |
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Last edited by gab; 01-18-2014 at 08:08 AM.
Lucid dreaming occurs in a very real dimension. It is different from the physical realm we live in. Spirits and other entities good bad and indifferent can have influence on you in this realm they do not have in the physical world. My wife is a talented lucid dreamer but I asked her not to do it anymore after a frightening experience. The bible forbids us from performing witchcraft and sorcery because we are not designed to interact with the nonphysical realm so directly. |
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The Bible does forbid witchcraft and sorcery, which is normally written as communing with the dead or "pharmakeia" which would be where we get our term for "pharmacy" meaning using drugs for a "other-worldy feeling" It also has places with medicine in it, showing that it just doesn't want people to mess with things that do that, because like a lot of the bible, it is saying no to protect you, not trying to stop you from doing something fun. I do not see how realizing you are dreaming would suddenly make you into a different dimension. If you are in a different dimension when you are lucid, then you are in a different dimension every time you sleep, so if lucid dreaming is evil, then so is dreaming. |
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Does it matter if a religion forbids it? NOOOOOO!! This is why we are so behind in research because our culture puts religion first. |
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I'm confused. You told your wife not to, but you still practice it? Just saying..... |
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Witchcraft!! gaah.gif |
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And it also seems like lucidity might be. The brains natural defense mechanism against nightmares. >_> |
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That's a cool idea, but flawed. Nightmares are evolutionary beneficial, so the brain would never create a natural defense mechanism against them. Besides, if lucid dreaming was a "natural" mechanism, then it would kick in much more often in people's nightmares, especially considering studies that show that a very high percentage of dream possess negative content. |
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Last edited by Zoth; 01-18-2014 at 05:41 PM.
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Nightmares normally come in response to a waking fear or worry, I like how LeBarge talked about nightmares. He said that if your dream is this: |
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makes lots of sense! |
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I fill my heart with fire, with passion, passion for what makes me nostalgic. A unique perspective fuels my fire, makes me discover new passions, more nostalgia. I love it.
"People tell dreamers to reality check and realize this is the real world and not one of fantasies, but little do they know that for us Lucid Dreamers, it all starts when the RC fails"
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Doesn't matter how old it is if it is the truth. Truth stays true. That is why Archimedes's tomb had Calculus on it way back when, and we use calculus now to program out machines. Truth doesn't change over the ages, unless something to do with that truth changes. Since we are still sleeping the exact same way as we were when it was made, then it still applies. We aren't all cryogenically frozen every night instead of just sleeping. |
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Of course. But some details turned out to be wrong, but they are minor details, that Laberge concluded, but don't really effect the general benifit and effectiveness of the book's contents. |
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I fill my heart with fire, with passion, passion for what makes me nostalgic. A unique perspective fuels my fire, makes me discover new passions, more nostalgia. I love it.
"People tell dreamers to reality check and realize this is the real world and not one of fantasies, but little do they know that for us Lucid Dreamers, it all starts when the RC fails"
Add me as a friend!!!
Oooo. I had a hunch that the first one was wrong, but the second one is as well? *a bright light shines at the end of my tunnel*. (I dont care at all about being wrong, I don't want to be right all the time, just at the end of the day, after I have learned) |
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Seems interesting! I think both are right. schemas and physical/psychological factors! ^^ |
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I fill my heart with fire, with passion, passion for what makes me nostalgic. A unique perspective fuels my fire, makes me discover new passions, more nostalgia. I love it.
"People tell dreamers to reality check and realize this is the real world and not one of fantasies, but little do they know that for us Lucid Dreamers, it all starts when the RC fails"
Add me as a friend!!!
Ya. Honestly, I'd agree with Brandon in his 2nd remark, because at some level he is indeed right: dream content seems to at least be influenced by our expectations/fears, aka, emotional memory. The deal is, being so many theories and variables lying around, it's hard to go on one specific direction without we stumbling according some aspects that don't fit the puzzle. |
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I fill my heart with fire, with passion, passion for what makes me nostalgic. A unique perspective fuels my fire, makes me discover new passions, more nostalgia. I love it.
"People tell dreamers to reality check and realize this is the real world and not one of fantasies, but little do they know that for us Lucid Dreamers, it all starts when the RC fails"
Add me as a friend!!!
Studies for lucid dreaming are normally lacking a control group and really lack a good conclusion. They could all be chalked up to expectation since we aren't doing them correctly. :/ I might have to look more into how to have nightmares. |
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Nightmares are beneficial? How exactly? How is illogical fear beneficial? It kills mind, therefore it is detrimental. |
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There are dangers in everything, but the benefits of lucid dreaming are definitely worth it. |
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Last edited by Laurelindo; 02-20-2014 at 12:58 PM.
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I think that the negative of feeling drained has to do with keeping your mind concious too much time, I think that a requierment needed for resting well is completely shutting your conciousness off. |
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