No. Please give me the link. I meant to say no wiki/advice links, but if they help you phase what you want to say, do it. And it's been too long for me to edit. Thanks for the advice. I didn't expect this thread to take off! |
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No. Please give me the link. I meant to say no wiki/advice links, but if they help you phase what you want to say, do it. And it's been too long for me to edit. Thanks for the advice. I didn't expect this thread to take off! |
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Last edited by yost; 11-06-2013 at 11:10 PM.
Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
That last post really struck me...having recently attended a funeral and noticing how everyone appreciates the person who has just passed away made me realize that we are often not appreciating those who are still around us until it is too late! Edit: not just people but appreciate all the things around us. |
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Last edited by fogelbise; 11-07-2013 at 04:35 AM. Reason: add edit & quote
After reading this thread, I realized how important a good WBTB is. So last night, instead of doing my usual 5-10 minute WBTB, I did a 30 minute WBTB. I went on Dream Views the whole time to keep my mind on lucid dreaming. That extra 20-25 minutes did wonders for me. Not only did it increase my awareness throughout the night, but I almost had a WILD (without really even trying). Later in the night, I also went into SP. Now, I know that SP is not a goal, but it is exciting because you can use SP to enter a LD. |
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All this WBTB talk is giving me the idea to try it on Friday night. I shall report if I do. |
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Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
Forgot to add...read your old DJ entries!..online or not. Reliving the excitement of your lucid dreams or even your interesting non-lucid dreams can provide a high level of motivation! I got this idea from the podcast mentioned above and it is very helpful |
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Another good WBTB this morning for 25 mins |
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Guys, I am just loving all these success stories. Visiting this thread is awesome just to soak up all the positive energy. |
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Why thank you, canis. I have a question now. I've been RC'ing regularly for the last three days. About 1/2 of the way through yesterday, I stopped wanting to do them. It's been tiring to force myself to do 1 set of 5 checks twice every hour. Especially at school. Did you ever encounter this? I want to RC but don't know what to do. BTW, it's 1. Check any nearby text 3x. 2. Glance at my hands for screwups. 3. Count my fingers on each hand. 4. Try to breathe through my nose when holding it. 5. Try to put finger through left hand, then right. |
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Last edited by yost; 11-07-2013 at 11:05 PM.
You are probably doing too many in waking life if you mean that you do all 5 of those RCs, one time each, every hour. If I were doing all 5 of those each time it would quickly feel like a chore and quickly lose any meaning which could translate to them giving you the same result in a dream that they do in waking life...namely, convincing you that you are awake. I recommend choosing one or two that perhaps you already relate to lucid dreaming so that there is a little excitement just thinking about the RC...even still, sometimes you may feel like a break from RCs during certain hours of the day or a change to a different RC. |
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Last edited by fogelbise; 11-08-2013 at 12:10 AM.
What I meant is that I do 5 checks in one series every 30 mins. I guess it was overkill. My two favorites are the text-check and the finger-through-hand. I'll do those once an hour and as often as I randomly remember. Thanks! |
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Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
Once an hour seems like a pretty good frequency, but I think that you should get in the habit of the doing the mental reality checks paired with these. |
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Alrighty then, emptybucket! I will do so! |
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Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
Another good, solid WBTB this morning and I had my second DEILD and one of the longer lucid dreams I've ever had. Awesome! |
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Every man and every woman is a star. Every number is infinite; there is no difference.
I did a solid WBTB (25 minutes, and ran through the states alphabetically) and couldn't go back to sleep (was trying to WILD though which at least for me keeps me more more awake unless I'm super tired). 25 is obviously too long for me or the states names thing is too stimulating. Alertness is probably the key, not the time involved. Gotta find that balance. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
I fought with myself for the past two days, I was feeling too groggy and immediately went back to bed. Today, did a 22 min WBTB (plus 1/3 of latte) and had some trouble falling asleep, but eventually did and guess what happened? |
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ahhhhoamghafgkafd;asdf!!!!! I will try this tonight! But I don't know how long? 15mins sound good? Maybe some reading? |
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Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
Personally I would start somewhere between 15-30 minutes and adjust up or down from there based on results. I seem to have a better chance of DILD (as I've said elsewhere, my WILD is pretty much non-existent no matter what but I'm trying to work on it) after about a 5-10 minute WBTB, long enough to jot down notes about my last dream and get my head in the right place. I have tried them longer but it doesn't seem to increase my chances, and anything over 20ish minutes will make it harder for me to sleep. I have heard of 40+min WBTB but not me if I can help it. Then again I've only done the longer ones a couple times just because most nights I don't want to risk being stuck awake. |
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Last edited by duke396; 11-09-2013 at 04:26 AM.
^^ I know exactly what you're saying about wanting to avoid the stuck awake at all costs scenario. But as the experienced dreamers say here, being worried about getting back to sleep is the guaranteed way to stay awake. I got what felt like 99% of the way into a WILD this morning, and the progress all came when I stopped trying to "make it happen" and instead just "let it happen." It's the same thing with getting back to sleep: don't *try* to sleep, just relax and empty your mind, nature will do its thing then. Read up on different approaches on how to do this and find what works for you. Very useful for me was adding regular intense exercise to my schedule. Making sure the body *needs* sleep through the juicy morning REM periods, so it will sleep. |
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Last edited by FryingMan; 11-09-2013 at 11:24 AM.
FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
You're right, I'm sure with the proper techniques you could sleep pretty much any time you want. It's just a hard old habit to break that after being awake a certain time my body just doesn't want to. I'm willing to experiment with it and have before (mostly on accident) but not on my work days of course. The 5-10 and usually even 20 minute ones are just fine though. After all the WBTB I've tried, I've still only ever had one questionable WILD though (I can't decide if it was that or a FA that immediately caused a DILD because of the weird way it played out) so that's still a goal of mine because regardless of what really happened, it was awesome. I guess I need to adjust my technique on that |
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Did a WBTB for 25 minutes this morning and had my first planned WILD! |
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I will start this all soon. Thanks for the advice! |
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Have first real, long, vivid, Lucid Dream[x]
Well, I just stumbled upon Lucid Dreaming by chance, and most of them have been trough sleep paralysis, witch I also stumbled on by chance. And well I come far of actually enduring the sleep paralysis, as I'm very scared of the hear hallucinations and sometimes phantom pain I get when I'm in it. I even figured out really fast how I got deeper into the sleep paralysis (and thus getting a higher chance of entering a lucid dream). |
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I got my first LD pretty fast. 6 Years now into lucid dreaming every day. I was thinking a lot how to teach someone lucid dreaming, I even wrote a guide on everything that helped me and everything that seemed to help other people. |
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