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      Quote Originally Posted by LouaiB View Post
      Wow! It's gonna be impressive if you do that!
      Yup, that would be cool .. falling asleep consciously*, seeing the beginning of dreams, being lucid, returning to the void of sleep, dreams again..

      * perhaps hearing my occasional snoring ( you can only do that if you retain some consciousness right ? ); Btw, at sleep onset, i sometimes hear myself snoring and know i am sleeping, but very soon i get totally unconscious and fall asleep.

      I donīt know if while in conscious non-rem sleep is possible to hear sounds, or some faint sounds. Is it ? That would be good news for snorers, i think, because they would have a feedback sound. People only snore when they sleep ( that is, when they loose their muscular tone and throat collapses ).

      Quote Originally Posted by BrandonBoss View Post

      Vagaltone, what technique are you using for this? Do you plan on accomplishing this this year?
      Well, i have tried it sometimes, not consistently, but i've been having this intention for some time. I would like to accomplish it this year but i donīt know..i have heard that some people try for years and others just have a natural talent..

      Regarding techniques, i have read some buddhist literature ( specially Allan Wallace's ) and they use some main techniques:

      -->following hypnagogic imagery ( like normal wild technique i guess )

      -->meditation
      1: awareness of awareness, or shamata without a sign* ( just resting on the feeling of being aware, very simple, not concerned with the senses or mind contents, just the feeling of being aware )

      2: watching thoughts and mind contents ( that's close to WILD hypnagogia when one sees random flashing images but one watches passively, and itīs also close to mindfulness in terms of detachment )

      -->visualization of a small white light orb at the chest centre ( heart chakra )

      -->or trough lucid dreaming ( closing one's dream eyes and resting in awareness ).

      * I will probably follow this one. I find more difficult to fall asleep while watching phosphenes or hypnagogia, but this is a promising avenue. Visualizing a small light orb, the size of a pea, itīs also easy to do and fall asleep with.
      Last edited by VagalTone; 01-07-2014 at 12:13 AM.
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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