Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

Had another lucid last night using the rollover method as on every occasion i found myself
standing by my bed, the dream lasted about five minutes and was very vivid.
What i love most about this instant wild method is the fact that your lucid right at the start
of the dream as apposed to becoming aware further into the dream because of a dild.

Originally Posted by DREAMER242000

Had another lucid last night using the rollover method as on every occasion i found myself
standing by my bed, the dream lasted about five minutes and was very vivid.
What i love most about this instant wild method is the fact that your lucid right at the start
of the dream as apposed to becoming aware further into the dream because of a dild.

Indeed I have had a lucid dream every time I have done this technique like he describe t should be done. Now I almsot know that I will have a lucid dream tonight, because this is no luck or skill it's just doing it and you have full control over the process.

Its not working for me...I am trying from so many days now..
May be i need some practise first...
I wake up almost after dream...I should try dield instead...
But dield should have worked already if it will work....Because i dont move while using these techniques..
Gosh what will happen..
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@dreamer242000
which rollover method you are talking about..?

Originally Posted by Kunal19

Its not working for me...I am trying from so many days now..
May be i need some practise first...
I wake up almost after dream...I should try dield instead...
But dield should have worked already if it will work....Because i dont move while using these techniques..
Gosh what will happen..
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@dreamer242000
which rollover method you are talking about..?

I know what you're doing wrong. You try after every dream, when you should wake up after about 6 hours of sleeping, than go to sleep again, than wake up and only then try.

But whats wrong in trying after dream...
It should work too..
It is natural for me...I wake up
2-3 times during sleep and almost every time i wake up from dream...
Are you talking about deferred method..?

Originally Posted by Kunal19

But whats wrong in trying after dream...
It should work too..
It is natural for me...I wake up
2-3 times during sleep and almost every time i wake up from dream...
Are you talking about deferred method..?

No. You should read book CAREFULY. ;D
1. Wake up after sleeping 6 hours using an alarm.
2. Go to sleep with huge intention to be AWARE when you wake up.
3. Wake up, don't move or open your eyes and perform induction techniqeus.
4. Enjoy your LD. ;D

Originally Posted by Purebred

No. You should read book CAREFULY. ;D
1. Wake up after sleeping 6 hours using an alarm.
2. Go to sleep with huge intention to be AWARE when you wake up.
3. Wake up, don't move or open your eyes and perform induction techniqeus.
4. Enjoy your LD. ;D

Hihi xD works like a charm.
But to wake up to an alarm and then fall asleep again to wake up naturally is what we on this forum call WBTB, but Michael Raduga call it deffered method
and it's the best way to get successful, to wake up after a dream is good too, but the longer you sleep the more chance it is that you are in your rem sleep.
This technique works if you do exactly as it is written in the book, and if you not use the deffered method you are going to have less successful attempts than those who use the deffered method, but you are still going to be successful it only means that you have to do more attempts than others.

I use the deffered method and it have worked every time on school days, except for last night because I gave up when I were only minutes or even seconds away from the phase...
But the book have given me 7 lucid dreams in 2 weeks but I don't pracctise on weekends so 9 days =)

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Hihi xD works like a charm.
But to wake up to an alarm and then fall asleep again to wake up naturally is what we on this forum call WBTB, but Michael Raduga call it deffered method
and it's the best way to get successful, to wake up after a dream is good too, but the longer you sleep the more chance it is that you are in your rem sleep.
This technique works if you do exactly as it is written in the book, and if you not use the deffered method you are going to have less successful attempts than those who use the deffered method, but you are still going to be successful it only means that you have to do more attempts than others.

I use the deffered method and it have worked every time on school days, except for last night because I gave up when I were only minutes or even seconds away from the phase...
But the book have given me 7 lucid dreams in 2 weeks but I don't pracctise on weekends so 9 days =)

What I would like to do is WBTB, than WILD, and if normal WILD fails I can go to sleep and try this instant WILD (I call it DEILD) method. It's like 2 techniques in one night.

Originally Posted by Kunal19

Its not working for me...I am trying from so many days now..
May be i need some practise first...
I wake up almost after dream...I should try dield instead...
But dield should have worked already if it will work....Because i dont move while using these techniques..
Gosh what will happen..
__
@dreamer242000
which rollover method you are talking about..?

In answer to your question Kunal19
I like you tend to wake up two or three times during a normal nights sleep
and every time i do this i keep perfectly still with my eyes closed and first
thing i try is the phantom wiggling of my arm or fingers, if this fails then i
try to Rollover, If my body is facing left i try to imagine turning my body
to face right, i do this several times if i get no results i go back to sleep
and repeat on my next awakening.
This is how i have been getting my results i hope this helps you and you
start having success.

Originally Posted by Purebred

What I would like to do is WBTB, than WILD, and if normal WILD fails I can go to sleep and try this instant WILD (I call it DEILD) method. It's like 2 techniques in one night.

I understand your situation, you have an annoying roommate.
Michael Raduga say that many novice pracctioner is tempted to do both direct and indirect techniques on the same day, but the pracctioner tire themself out and only get frustrated when they don't succed and that they will have more difficulties with entering the phase if they do both. But what the hell Proove him wrong!
But have in my mind that he have got all his information from 300 students, but maybe you are THE ONE? x)

Originally Posted by MasterMind

I understand your situation, you have an annoying roommate.
Michael Raduga say that many novice pracctioner is tempted to do both direct and indirect techniques on the same day, but the pracctioner tire themself out and only get frustrated when they don't succed and that they will have more difficulties with entering the phase if they do both. But what the hell Proove him wrong!
But have in my mind that he have got all his information from 300 students, but maybe you are THE ONE? x)

Every teenager thinks he is special. xD I do too. I don't know what should I do. Should I try indirect or direct? I got direct working on my first try, but it's very risky, because of my roommate..... Hmmm...
OFFTOPIC. xD

Is this deferred method good for health and sleep...?
Do you guys perform deferred method every night(i mean whenever you wanna try indirect techniques..)...?

Originally Posted by Purebred

Every teenager thinks he is special. xD I do too. I don't know what should I do. Should I try indirect or direct? I got direct working on my first try, but it's very risky, because of my roommate..... Hmmm...
OFFTOPIC. xD

Indirect techniques is the best to start out with, but if you can't do the deffered method you should try to notice your awakening during the night, it's harder, but when you can do this you are atleast a natural lucid dreamer =) I believe in you

Originally Posted by Kunal19

Is this deferred method good for health and sleep...?
Do you guys perform deferred method every night(i mean whenever you wanna try indirect techniques..)...?

I used to do it every night, but Michael Raduga told me that a novice pracctioner should only do it 3-4 times per the first two years.
But when I want to use indirect, which is on every attempt, I use the deffered method yes, because it's the best and it allways gives me results.
I did an attempt without the deffered method once, but nothing seemed to happen for me, but the next attempt I did the deffered method and I heard a loud high pitched noise instantly and listened in, but I thought I was still awake, I even got out of bed, but I was dissapointed so I got back to bed, but i was actually in the phase. Deffered method is what give most people results, but notice awakening works too, but it is a little harder to find you rem periods I guess.

What!
3-4 times per the first two years...?

Originally Posted by Kunal19

What!
3-4 times per the first two years...?

He means 3 - 4 times per weak duting your first years of practise.

Originally Posted by Purebred

He man 3 - 4 times per weak duting your first years of practise.

xD Yeah of course !

3-4 days / week in the first 2-3 year of pracctise ^^

guys can anybody share a full obe experience which you experienced using indirect techniques ( specially deffered method)......?
i mean how did you exit and deepning and all.......was it dull at first....

Originally Posted by Kunal19

guys can anybody share a full obe experience which you experienced using indirect techniques ( specially deffered method)......?
i mean how did you exit and deepning and all.......was it dull at first....

Ok I am still new pracctioner, I started to read the book 3 weeks ago and I have been pracctising the techniques for 11 days. My lucid dreams before this method was often very unstable and were often movie like and didn't felt like reality. Anyhow, one night I got to bed and set my alarm to wake me up 6 hours later (this was a schoolday so I went to bed 10 pm) When the alarm woke me up 6 hours later I struggled with getting up from bed, because I was so tired.
But I asked myself (Do I want to the phase?" "Yeah." "Then get up you lazy ba*tard xD) so I went to the bathroom. Then I went back to bed again.
I created an intention to be aware of my awakening and start using indirect techniques and then fell asleep. When I noticed my awakening I started to observe images (I don't have controll enough to separate in my bedroom so I teleported to another location to start my phase there) I was suddenly standing in my kitchen and the experience felt like I had just woke up, but this time in the phase. I started to rub my hands and everything started to be more clear and stable. I saw that it was raining outside, I wasn't sure that I wanted to go out but, it was a dream so I thought that I might not feel the cold. When I were outside I felt the cold rain dripping on my body. I was amazed how real the experience was, because it felt REAL! I started to touch the ground and my dad's car and the dream was now very real and stable. But I didn't use the deepening techniques enough, and 5 minutes later I lost my lucidity.
When I had used the deepening techniques I wanted to visit my school in the dream, just to see how alike it would be. I walked down to the street and saw DC's walking, it felt like reality. Now the deepening techniques stopped working and I started to believe that I was in the "real" world and I was now dreaming normally. This is the best and most vivid experience I have had so far.
Last night I were in the phase, but didn't realise it, but I were still in my bed so it was like a false awakening. Next time I will not make the same misstake.
But for now I have a break, because Michael Raduga suggest that phase entry only should be pracctised 3-4 days per week otherwise you risk to have a dryspell for weeks.

I really hope that this helped you The phase is awesome, but the method is even more awesome, because instead of realising that you are dreaming to become lucid, you just have to notice that you have woke up and then become lucid

Originally Posted by MasterMind

The phase is awesome, but the method is even more awesome, because instead of realising that you are dreaming to become lucid, you just have to notice that you have woke up and then become lucid

That's the hardest part for me. I've been so busy lately I haven't had time to do this. And, when I finally got time (at home) it didn't help much because my family kept waking me up.
The good news is that I've got a job. The bad news is that I probably won't have time on weekdays for any of this because I have a job.

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

That's the hardest part for me. I've been so busy lately I haven't had time to do this. And, when I finally got time (at home) it didn't help much because my family kept waking me up.
The good news is that I've got a job. The bad news is that I probably won't have time on weekdays for any of this because I have a job.

=/ How much do you sleep?
You don't have to use the deffered method, you can just affirm before you go to sleep that you will notice your micro awakenings.
This is a little harder, but when you start to get the hang of it you can atleast pracctise on weekdays.

I havn't read the book and only read the first page of this threade but it seems like it is some good stuff. I had figured out about phantom wiggling myself while trying to WILD. I always try and imagine the sensation of moving my arm without actualy moving my physical arm. It starts out being very subtle but as it goes on I can move my arm more and more. Im still not good at WILD though so maby I will practice some of these.

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

I havn't read the book and only read the first page of this threade but it seems like it is some good stuff. I had figured out about phantom wiggling myself while trying to WILD. I always try and imagine the sensation of moving my arm without actualy moving my physical arm. It starts out being very subtle but as it goes on I can move my arm more and more. Im still not good at WILD though so maby I will practice some of these.

just remember to sleep first, try the movements as agressively as possible and then move on to another visualisation if you dont feel anything pretty soon. good luck

this method works for me when I awake on my back. When I do, I can remember to lay completely still unlike when I wake on my side for some reason. When I do wake on my back and don't move, I start to vibrate quite intensely. After that I enter a dream, but it's pretty unclear and ends fast. I should probably use deepening techniques. I should also mention that I don't wake up after 6 hours of sleep and go back to bed either, would this help?

How did you teleport mastermind..?