Thread: The age of perfect lucid attainment, NOW!

I don't understand what do i focus on? sounds a lot like WILD

No offense... but that's nothing really new. It's a WILD, technically.

I don't understand what do i focus on? sounds a lot like WILD

You just focus in front of you, behind your eye lids. It does sound like WILD, but if you read the WILD instructions, you will see the differences.

No offense... but that's nothing really new. It's a WILD, technically.

Yeah, but do you see a WILD instruction that simply states that you should focus in front of you and get into a dream and that is it? If you read it, you will see that there are differences. There are some WILD instructions that state transition of focus or even anchors, or some preparations that might change it into a WBTB method.

I am very experienced with the WILD method, but understanding the differences of this method is the reason I posted and its sheer simpleness. Anyways, differences or not, try this method and with practice see if you can get a lucid dream every single night as that was the main focus of this thread, the attaining of lucid dream every single night.

Originally Posted by elucid

You just focus in front of you, behind your eye lids. It does sound like WILD, but if you read the WILD instructions, you will see the differences.



Yeah, but do you see a WILD instruction that simply states that you should focus in front of you and get into a dream and that is it? If you read it, you will see that there are differences. There are some WILD instructions that state transition of focus or even anchors, or some preparations that might change it into a WBTB method.

I am very experienced with the WILD method, but understanding the differences of this method is the reason I posted and its sheer simpleness. Anyways, differences or not, try this method and with practice see if you can get a lucid dream every single night as that was the main focus of this thread, the attaining of lucid dream every single night.

No, you don't understand. There are a wide ways of keeping conscious in WILDs. You can count, or you could focus on a noise, or even have a conversation with yourself. These are all WILDs, with different methods to keep you awake. Transition is a state we must pass, every WILD tutorial makes notice of it. "Focusing in front of you" (even if that makes no sense in the given context) would purely be another way of being awake.

This has no substantial difference to a WILD. WILD methods can be very different, the tutorials on the site give a range of posibilities of how to successfully do them. If it has to do with lying and trying to get into a dream by focusing on anything, it's a WILD.

Think this was more of a MILD than a WILD, telling people they will become lucid this way = placebo, though its ruined now that it was explained as WILD <.<

Think this was more of a MILD than a WILD, telling people they will become lucid this way = placebo, though its ruined now that it was explained as WILD <.<

Even so, he implies that you do the WILD without prior sleep. That obviously isn't going to work well, even if the person thinks it will.

Most people don't notice it but they fall asleep while trying to WILD and have a FA about WILDing. If the placebo tells them its going to work, during a FA of this kind it should be easy to become lucid.

But this method would only work consistently if you WBTB.....

Originally Posted by TheModernNinja

But this method would only work consistently if you WBTB.....

And even then it wouldn't work...

Yeah you pretty much gave the most basic WILD tutorial you could ever give. But thanks for trying.

Ok, how about this then, This method called FID is a form of WILD but much simplified.

Even then, the main focus was that you could get a lucid dream every night, is that not an advanced stage of lucid dreaming? And for those that claim that it does not work, then I simply let them be a witness of its success by doing it every night.

Originally Posted by elucid

Hey everyone,

As the title suggests, the age of perfect lucid attainment is NOW! because with this method, you can get a lucid every single night and for me that is its perfection.

This method is called "FID" its meaning is "Focus into dream".

Here is the instruction of the method:

1. When going to bed, it is recommended that you do some relaxation, such as stretching.
2. Get into your favorite posture when going to bed.
3. Focus in front of you, keep your focus until you enter a dream.
4. Once you enter a dream, some suggest that you try spinning or yelling for clarity or stablity, which is recommended. For stability, you can also try keeping your focus on the dream.

With this method, you can try to get into a dream every night, that is why it is called the perfection of lucid dreaming.

Good luck, and please post any reviews.

No matter how many WILD tutorials I've read I have never found an anchor that could work for me... this seems like the ABSOLUTELY PERFECT one!!
Thanks so much!!

Why the hell is everyone bashing on this person? They posted to try to help better the community with knowledge they thought could be useful to some people and you guys just shoot it down. If you don't agree with it, push the back button and move on. Don't waste your or the reader's time by posting unhelpful replies only consisting of how he is wrong. Come on guys, don't have a pissing contest with everyone you don't agree with.

Originally Posted by mutualdreamer

Why the hell is everyone bashing on this person? They posted to try to help better the community with knowledge they thought could be useful to some people and you guys just shoot it down. If you don't agree with it, push the back button and move on. Don't waste your or the reader's time by posting unhelpful replies only consisting of how he is wrong. Come on guys, don't have a pissing contest with everyone you don't agree with.

We aren't bashing on him. What I only did is explain to him why it is a WILD, not a new form of a technique.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, be it a new form or a simplified form of a WILD, the main focus was its success at attaining lucid dream every single night.

And as for those that claim that you need prior sleep (WBTB) or claim that it is placebo, then just practice this method and see if you can get a lucid dream every single night. Cool thing about this, you dont need to do reality checks all day.

I am a years experienced lucid dreamer so that adds alot of credibility to my posts. Every single bash should have been countered with my posts, now good luck.

No matter how many WILD tutorials I've read I have never found an anchor that could work for me... this seems like the ABSOLUTELY PERFECT one!!
Thanks so much!!

Yeah no problem, but have in mind that if at first few tries you do not succeed it may be due to not having any practice so do not give up so fast. The cool thing about this method is that you go through stages of entering a dream, my usual one is where I twirl around and leave my body flying in a pixelated dream or a black and white dream and slowly its quality becomes better. You might also witness monsters but I take those to be ordinary at that stage of going into a dream, it is very cool to witness that stage. Good luck.

Ok, I'm a DILD kinda guy... Never did a wild. But if this can get my average up from once a week I am game to try! I dont discount anything now... I wouldnt have believed in LD at all if I hadnt seen it for myself. Focus on eyelids seems easy enough, whatever you call the method. Personally I like DILDs as I get a rush experiencing the epiphany of realizing you are actually asleep. That AH HA moment.... priceless.

Originally Posted by elucid

As I mentioned in my earlier post, be it a new form or a simplified form of a WILD, the main focus was its success at attaining lucid dream every single night.

And as for those that claim that you need prior sleep (WBTB) or claim that it is placebo, then just practice this method and see if you can get a lucid dream every single night. Cool thing about this, you dont need to do reality checks all day.

I am a years experienced lucid dreamer so that adds alot of credibility to my posts. Every single bash should have been countered with my posts, now good luck.



Yeah no problem, but have in mind that if at first few tries you do not succeed it may be due to not having any practice so do not give up so fast. The cool thing about this method is that you go through stages of entering a dream, my usual one is where I twirl around and leave my body flying in a pixelated dream or a black and white dream and slowly its quality becomes better. You might also witness monsters but I take those to be ordinary at that stage of going into a dream, it is very cool to witness that stage. Good luck.

It's not a new form of WILD, again. Many people focus on random stuff to have a WILD, it doesn't matter what it is. Also, WILDs without prior sleep are extremely hard. This is because when you get to sleep, you are not in your REM phase in which almost all of your dreams occur.

Oh, and, just because you've had a bunch of LDs doesn't mean your comments are credible. None of the bashes (which weren't bashes) were not countered by your posts. This is not something that comes out of experience. This is simple knowledge over the basic terminology when it comes to LD-ing.

Cheers.

elucid how much time does it take to enter a dream with this method ?
can you detail stages 2 and 3 ?
do you mean dreaming outer rem is possible ? because prior sleep it takes 90 minutes to enter rem without prior sleep

Focus in front of you...

What?

Originally Posted by wana

elucid how much time does it take to enter a dream with this method ?
can you detail stages 2 and 3 ?
do you mean dreaming outer rem is possible ? because prior sleep it takes 90 minutes to enter rem without prior sleep

Well, there are dreams out of REM, I believe. They just aren't nearly as vivid/often as the ones in REM.

Thanks guys but i want the investor of this technique to respond so that we can all truly benefit from him

Originally Posted by sarcasticindeed

well, there are dreams out of rem, i believe. They just aren't nearly as vivid/often as the ones in rem.

can we even recall em ? I mean have you ever had ones you recall

elucid how much time does it take to enter a dream with this method ?

I have not really took the time to measure the time it took to enter a dream.

can you detail stages 2 and 3 ?

I cant quite detail stages, but I can recall experiences of entering dreams. The first and most common stage that happens to me and I mention "me" as I believe it is different for everyone is that I leave my body, some have mentioned SP but I have gone through SP only once, other times I have just gone "Out of body" as it is called though it may not truly be out of body, then get into a pixelated world or a black& white world/dream and from there either the pixels start spinning where I get a scene change and different dream or that they start to clear out and become a quality dream.

I also believe that the experiences differ person to person.

do you mean dreaming outer rem is possible ? because prior sleep it takes 90 minutes to enter rem without prior sleep

All of those are theories, and they can be proven otherwise, how so? Just test out the opposite of what they say.

Focus in front of you...

What?

When you close your eyes, you should see some oranges/bluish pixel like things moving/buzzing, just focus on them, basically they are called behind the eye lids.

I understand the doubts that may occur but the best thing to do, even though it is fun to question and talk about it is to get it into action by "testing" it out. If it were some placebo type of a technique or that it was a lie, then I would be scared of questioning it or testing it, but I clearly tell you to test it to the fullest and question it to the fullest.


Have fun.

hey you can at least tell me its less than 90 minutes can you ?

We're not bashing on him, we're just pointing out this is a variation of wild.
Not "the perfect lucid attainment of the 21st century"
As this guy is claiming..