Thread: For lucidity: Internal or External?

Originally Posted by DARKSYNTAX

I did a practice like this a while ago and after about two weeks i achieved around 3 spontaneous lucid dreams within a few days. I'm more focused on understanding how this works in the end.

Theres your answer!!! :-)

Our waking mind is our sleeping mind. The more self aware we are during the day, the more self aware we are in dreams creating lucidity. I was practicing mindfulness last year and would gradually realize that I was dreaming and become lucid in some dreams but i stopped for a while and the spontaneous lucid dreams became less

As Sageous say, self awareness is key to DILDS but its learning self awareness in waking life that is the challenge as there's not much info out there on the subject

Ezzo

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Theres your answer!!! :-)

Our waking mind is our sleeping mind. The more self aware we are during the day, the more self aware we are in dreams creating lucidity. I was practicing mindfulness last year and would gradually realize that I was dreaming and become lucid in some dreams but i stopped for a while and the spontaneous lucid dreams became less

As Sageous say, self awareness is key to DILDS but its learning self awareness in waking life that is the challenge as there's not much info out there on the subject

Ezzo

I really should stop answering my own questions in my posts

Actually, i stopped practicing after 2 weeks aswell, but this time i feel more motivated to keep going. It looks like it would take a month to start giving some really good results as far as i'm concerned. Judging by my past practice, 2 weeks seems to be the point in which LD's start showing up.

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

... You mention Vipasanna which I know very little about. Is Vipassana something worth looking into in regards to an avenue to increase self awareness?

I think so.

Originally Posted by DARKSYNTAX

In any case, what difference would more practice show? Would these moments start having more and more self-awareness into them to the point of kicking me into lucidity, or do these self-awareness moments increase and give a better chance of lucidity?

These self-awareness moments don't give you a better chance of lucidity, Darksyntax, they are lucidity.

Lucidity equals the presence of waking-life self-awareness in a dream, so anything you do to increase your tendency toward self-awareness will very likely increase your tendency toward lucidity. So yes, a successful daytime self-awareness practice will very likely be paralleled by a successful nighttime lucid dreaming practice; if you can learn to associate self-awareness with lucidity and not see it as a technique (because it isn't), you might find yourself on a much easier path to consistent LD's.

Originally Posted by Sageous

These self-awareness moments don't give you a better chance of lucidity, Darksyntax, they are lucidity.

Thanks! I can't help feeling this is a powerful statement and want the truth of it to soak in to me big time!

I love how you spoke of the " I am" moment ~ As a way of explaining self awareness

Often I find when taking these moments to reflect on ones being in waking life and at night ...sometimes spontaneous ...sometimes through a buzzer or cue reminding me to - I don't always have a strong feeling of my "very own"presence and on these times my analytical mind will try to take the lead ...which is ok but I am always kind of looking for ways to keep it really with "me " for longer. " I am " has helped ~ I will use it as a kind of mantra to link me to self awareness practice and intending to Lucid dream