How can you WILD without getting 4-6 hours of sleep? Dont you need to be close to an REM cycle? |
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I havemt gone to sleep yet... |
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I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride
How can you WILD without getting 4-6 hours of sleep? Dont you need to be close to an REM cycle? |
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We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.
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SAT (Sporadic Awareness Technique) Guide
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Nice guide, Trying tonight! |
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That is a really helpful way of seeing the REM cycles put, thank you! I'll make sure to refer to it when I start trying to WILD more after exams. |
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I will try this out for a while. Considering it's coming from a former staff member with a WILD just about every night, I have confidence in this. |
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Sometimes I wonder if anyone has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.
Well, I think I FINALLY got back into lucid dreaming, although my recall is not too good right now, and I've only had one LD this month. I will give this a shot tonight |
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I need some help with stage 2. With me, when I lie down to sleep, my mind is usually pretty blank, no thoughts of my day, no weird thoughts or images.... It's just blank until I fall asleep. Maybe I do have these weird thoughts or "chaos" but I can't catch them because I'm not really conscious during this. |
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Last night I tried this and I had the same problem. Basically I woke up at 4:30, stood up to turn my alarm off, and went back to bed. But as soon as my eyes closed, fell asleep. Maybe I should stay awake for a little longer, or start using my brain when I close my eyes, as in counting backwards from 100? |
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My problem isnt as much falling asleep quickly, I actually have no idea how long it takes me to fall asleep, because basically as soon as I lay down and relax for a few minutes I just kinda go unconscious. Not asleep, but not aware of my thoughts at all. |
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Ah I see. Well, you should try making your own thoughts. Kinda like day dreaming. Imagine crazy scenarios, or just think about your day in general, or plans for your future. That's what I do at least |
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I meant, create your thoughts first, and then let them drift away. I know what you mean. At night if I keep creating my thoughts I won't fall asleep. But I noticed that after I create them, and then just let them take their own course, I will start having illogical thoughts, like described by Jeff. If you have tried this, and you are still unable to put attention into these random thoughts, I honestly don't know what will work, sorry =/ |
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Cool guide. I used to skip over your posts because u gave me a infraction along time ago, but i just got over it after seeing how intelligent you actually are. Fantastic guide. Trying tonight probably if i don't wake up and decide to go back to sleep. |
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Peter piper picked your pecker.... wait that's not right.
rynkrt3, Andres hit the nail on the head my friend. After 5 - 10 minutes, the mind should get the drift and relinquish you of "needing" to force this anymore. It'll continue doing it (this is when you mentally sit down and just pay attention watching) on its own. Careful. You don't want to fall too far. If I may offer another word of advice it'd be to incorporate WBTB. If you are and are still falling asleep "blankly", stay up for a bit longer until your body is still tired but mind is still somewhat alert. Some people have problems falling to sleep, which is a problem of over-complicating the process. While others, (like yourself) seem to just jump straight into unconscious incoherency. In the latter category, not enough active control is being done while in the former, too much active control is the preventative cause. |
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Last edited by Jeff777; 05-27-2011 at 04:44 AM.
Things are not as they seem
I hope it does |
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thanks jeff! i have been doing "free falling" so often the last years! especialy when i was driving home with the bus and when i couldn't sleep, but i didn't think of turning this into a LD! This creates a whole new view of WILD to me. |
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Since this is labeled as a WILD technique, maybe you should include "How to transition from SP to a LD" into the thread. |
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This is an excellent guide, Jeff! It is hard to describe that illogical-thinking state you get into right before you fall asleep. You rock! |
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I tried creating my own "chaos" process last night. My mind was basically blank. I started to thing about some weird shit, a few minutes later, the weird thoughts started pouring in, but as soon as I noticed them/paid attention to them, they went away and I had to start the process over, so I did. Yet again the weird thoughts starting coming in without my help, but as I tried to "passively notice" them, they went away again. |
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Usually, as soon as I realize that I am having illogical thoughts, they stop occurring and I feel like my mind becomes more aware and alert, and that kind of interferes with me drifting off to sleep. Its a bit hard for me to remain alert and continue having chaotic thoughts at the same time. Once, I was trying to WILD and I started noticing that I was having illogical thoughts, and some of them were so damn stupid and WTF-inducing that I started giggling in my bed. |
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