It's possible to fall asleep consciously at bedtime. I find it fairly challenging though, and I usually make that the goal of the night (not worrying about getting enough sleep, having lucid dreams later, etc.) I'm sure it gets easier with practice. |
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Recently I have been trying SSILD after WBTB. It feels quite suited to me and it seems to be having wonderful effects on dream recall and causing DILDs. The past few days I have been trying it, I have mostly become lucid by just suddenly realising I'm dreaming a few minutes into the dream. I didn't even need to reality check, it just seemed to happen spontaneously. My understanding is that this is due to increased awareness that was carried over from SSILD, which basically has you meditating yourself to sleep by bring your attention to the three main senses one at a time for a while. |
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It's possible to fall asleep consciously at bedtime. I find it fairly challenging though, and I usually make that the goal of the night (not worrying about getting enough sleep, having lucid dreams later, etc.) I'm sure it gets easier with practice. |
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Stephen LaBerge's tips for MILD: (http://www.dreamviews.com/lucid-expe...ml#post2160952
I think we should all explore sleep and meditation for more reasons than just lucid dreams. I meditate myself to sleep every time I sleep. It is a ood thing for health and well being. I am sure it has a positive effect on lucidity also, but it is just my opinion. |
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I often have an awareness boost when I go to bed, and I do like to meditate then, but then, I don't fall asleep so I stop and try to get into the most distracted, less aware mindset with the hopes of falling asleep. I don't know what I should be doing though... |
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Perhaps if you are trying to be aware of breath, you are at a stage where that means focusing/thinking about breath. It is a subtle shift to experience breath while not thinking about breath. This kind of topic is hard to put into words. Also, breath is a function of the physical body and there fore can keep you focused on the physical body. If instead you use a mantra or a sensation, such a chakra awareness, you will be more likely to shift into sleep while still in a meditative state. |
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Thank you for those words, Sivason. I did understand your words but I am not sure that the comment was necessarily helpful (it might already be what I do) but it did give me courage. |
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Or perhaps attend awareness itself? Not breath, not bodily sensations, not mantra. This is where I generally shift my attention during meditation when I'm sufficiently calm, quiet and relaxed and breathing becomes so subtle it's no longer interesting and barely evident. I don't meditate as I go to sleep, but I can imagine this would be a fine way to fall off into sleep. |
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can someone point me in the right direction for finding this meditation in bed as you fall asleep? seems like a calm way to end the day. thanks you |
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New goals TBA
DILD: 8 WILD: 2 DEILD: 1
I learned the 'counting your breaths' meditation from Meditation for Dummies and found it a very effective method for falling asleep quicker. I have a bad habit of falling into 'daydreams' or thought cycles if I'm not careful which can cause me to be restless and take a while to fall out of enough to sleep. |
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"Often I will spin a tale, never will I charge a fee. I'll amuse you an entire eve, but, alas, you won't remember me. What am I?" - Sloth Demon, Dragon Age: Origins mage origin
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I have found that meditating on a lotus at the throat chakra leads to more vivid dreams, better recall, and being aware of awaking from dreams. It is definitely a beneficial practice. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
I very much agree! You suggested that some meditations might be more effective for this than following the breath. I'm interested, how do you meditate yourself to sleep? |
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Of course! It's actually even referenced in the WILD section of LaBerge's ETWOLD. It helps to be good at visualization: basically, just practice looking at an object for a while, then close your eyes and try to see it in your mind. Try to manipulate it (zoom in, out, rotate, view it from different angles, and so on), once you get to the point where you can bring up the image without much effort, then you can imagine it floating into your throat area, and you're basically then doing this meditation. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
To do it in the way proper to authentic Tibetan Buddhism or Vajrayana, very difficult. To the extent needed for lucid dreaming, dead easy. If you struggle with visualisation, simply take an apple or any other commonplace object and train up your skill by repeatedly looking at it, closing your eyes, and picturing it in your mind's eye. For the actual method, I would refer you to ETWOLD as FryingMan said, or Dreaming Yourself Awake by B. Allan Wallace, or The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep. Also check out our very own Sivason's Dream Yoga class! |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
You train visualization by visualizing. Take some objects from around your house, take a good long look at them, then close your eyes and visualize them. Once you can do that, do it without looking at thdm beforehand. Once you can do that, switch to visualizing people and animals, then people and animals doing different actions, and finally a full landscape. Congratulations, you now possess good visualization skills. |
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Through my experience, became aware of my breath, then
Began to cultivate my art with the intention of the heart,
Started to use my sentences as reflections.
And what I saw was God was in all of us and we all come to be interconnected.
And all that was depended on all of us
And had effects like a domino when you let it.
Go with the flow, that the universe holds.
This has all been incredibly helpful! Thanks everybody! |
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No concerns. No time. Feeling the confort and freedom in the bed. Enjoying it. Giving the same importance to relaxation, as to awareness. My personal awareness technique (now!!!) is counting from 100 to 1 (one number - on exhalation), after from 50 to 1. Then I turn to my other side. Again 100-1 and 50-1. Turning to other side. After 3-4 turns it is very heavy to turn again. Then I am counting with smaller numbers (30-20 to 1). I know that the thruth is near, when I am in hevy HI and/or some kinetic sensations and/or audio stuff. After this it is WILD or OFF. WILD is rare, but last year I had 5 of them, and I was not doing the meditations every night and I am playing with it, always changing the technique (with the same core: awareness). The WILDs are some 5-10 minutes long, and good ones. I was trying out many things in this short WILDs. I want to try out the "mega DEILD chaining". I am good at DEILD, but I always wake up to write down the dream. I want to risk my LD memories, and make a go to slepp WILD and after DEILD until I can. |
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