Thread: Dream Control Mastery Tutorial

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Don't try these techniques.

What techniques? These aren't techniques its just pointless rambling that has nothing to do with lucid dreaming. I looked into his posts/threads a bit more and its all utter nonsense.

Lemme just show you some things which are plain lies/made up :

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Originally Posted by Mylynes

I can create nearly anything I can imagine with ease. I have over 100 worlds created which I tend to visit during my very long (time dilation) trips into the dream plane. Most of them have vastly different rules which has an effect on the lifeforms there. My dreams are very stable, something doesn't vanish simply because I turn my back on it for a while. I enjoy splitting my awareness and using it to fill out various crazy forms. I love being able to see out of their eyes, hear what they hear, feel what they feel, even if it is a giant tentacle beast covered in eyeballs, or a small fly/dragon hybrid.

Like what is this? Is this supposed to be serious because judging from this guys posts and threads it looks very much so. He created 100s of persistant worlds and can inhibit the insides of any beast he wants.
This is plain impossible. Dreams are a reflection of ourselves and are governed by our subconcience, how is it possible to experience a sense in a Dream which you never experienced in real life. Some of the stuff hes saying is possible to some degree by highly skilled people and even then its an exaggeration. Like splitting personalities? How exactly does that work? Its unrealistic and fake.

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Originally Posted by Mylynes

I suppose my dream worlds must be more stable than for other people. If I turn my back on something, it doesn't simply vanish. I read and write pretty regularly in my dreams, mostly through a sort of computer system that can store/withdraw information (I supposed from my subconscious) which I usually access through a sort of HUD. I regularly log my adventures or jot down notes to help me remember things and then access them at a later date. My dream worlds are usually very stable unless I intentionally make them otherwise, or allow my subconscious to be more random. Sometimes I will post signs up in my dream worlds and the text never changes unless I want it to. These dreamworlds are consistent with the way they were designed to be, and I have visited many of them many many times since their creation. So they do not change much from dream to dream unless I want them to be evolving while I am away.

Anyways, definitely not impossible as I have done these things, and I think that perhaps even newbies to LDs/dream control could still (at least some of the time) be able to read text in their dreams and write in their dreams. Even if the text is not stable and changes on them, words could still be perceived before they change.

I also tend to use a good bit of math in my dreams, though usually not the more advanced math. Mostly I use this for programming constructs and thoughtforms.

So now this is beginning to look seem more and more sci-fi. I mean using maths and accessing your files trough a HUD stored by a brain computer? He uses all of these terms as the dream world is anything similar to waking life. It is extremely different, covered with emotions and volatile but he somehow has neat organized folders and solves math in them. Aight..

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Originally Posted by Mylynes

Mostly though I use 2 main techniques in order to extend my dreams.
The first is fairly simple, and anyone with enough dream control and control over their senses should be able to do with practice. Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time.
The other main tech I use, is I have 1 of my bodies meditate in the hyperbolic time chamber from dbz. This is much harder to explain but is based mostly on visualization (using HUD clocks) and feeling which I doubt I can explain better than the ear muscle explanation. This body attempts to slow down (or speed up depending on perspective) perceived time for all of my dream bodies simultaneously.
Using these 2 main techs in combination with many minor techs has allowed me to perceive many years of dream content in a mere 2 hours of sleep. I have also had times in which I have slept for over 24 hours and dreamed for what felt like hundreds of years, to the point where I had forgotten many things from irl. I felt as if I could remain their indefinitely (or near indefinitely) but I always choose to come back for some reason or other. These days, since I tend to spend much more time in my dreams than the waking world, instead of keeping a dream journal I keep a sort of thisworld journal which I use to keep from forgetting important things irl. I write before bed and read upon waking to reintegrate myself into this world.

So this one is my favorite. He claims to split into hundreds of clones each doing its own thing while he puts 1 clone of himself into a time chamber from DBZ? Can it get more ridiculous and obvious than this? Do I need to say anything?

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Originally Posted by Mylynes

For those interested in time dilation: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-cont...echniques.html

I was going to make a separate thread on dream combat and link to it here, but then things started getting screwy. Anyways, I'll go into that some here, particularly I'm in the mood to write about defense and why combat became boring for me because of becoming like a more complicated game of tictactoe in which neither side can win if both players know how to play.

The ultimate defense for dream and astral combat:
This is what i personally use for defense, though i won't reveal everything for my own sake, good to hold onto some secrets here just in case lol. I usually use a combination of techs depending on my mood, though my seeds are always ready if needed.

1. Shielding - Shielding comes in many forms, from simple bubble shields and body armor to more complex shielding such as spatial manipulation shields (throw a punch and when your fist gets too close to me it vanishes and reappears elsewhere), energy shields which rotate at high speeds or are programmed to reflect or counterattack, ect

2. Phasing - Like a no clipping mode cheat, stuff goes right through you as if you were a ghost.

3. Disconnection from self - You don't actually have a physical body, so you can turn pain off and physical attacks will become useless if your body is more of a thoughtform. Especially at first it may help if you view your dream body in third person. Your body can be mutilated beyond recognition with you laughing because you can choose to feel nothing and regenerate at will.

4. Dodging - If they can't touch you, it's hard for them to harm you with physical attacks. You can try to make yourself faster up to a certain point, but if you use TD creatively then speed, from your own perspective becomes irrelevant. If you can manipulate your perceived flow of time from only your own perspective, then no matter how fast your opponent is, to you they can appear slower than yourself and you can take your time in deciding how to respond to their attacks. It is unclear to me what would happen if 2 ppl skilled at this TD tech were have a battle of speed vs speed. I suppose it would depend on how far they can push the TD.

5. Consciousness Seeds - The real ultimate defense. Everything else is just for fun really. This is also pretty advanced and difficult to learn how to do and maintain properly. Similar to Naraku from Inuyasha, or really more similar to Voldemort in Harry Potter. You create thoughtforms which contain a tiny piece of your consciousness and the blueprint required to fully restore your mind if needed. Kind of like saving a backup of your mind on a harddrive in case you need to restore later. These come in many flavors with various programs designed to keep them hidden and let them know when to activate without giving an attacker any way to trace a link between you and the seeds in order to wipe you out completely. Many seeds i do keep linked up, if not directly to me than through each other in a sort of web keeping them all connected. Others i keep completely severed from both myself and the web. Most of these severed seeds are set to send out a "ping" at various intervals and then wait for a ping back from the seed network to make sure everything is ok and they don't need to activate. Some of these self-replicate and hide duplicates of themselves which do the same. Other types of seeds i will keep secret and not talk about. These seeds are hidden far and wide. Some deep within my own mind, some in other beings, some in random pocket dimensions, some which constantly teleport around to random places, and again some hiding places i will keep secret lol.

Some offensive stuff i like to use:
I use way too many offensive and defensive techs to list them all, but I'll get into some of my more fun/useful ones i like to use.
1. Black hole bombs - Nuff said lol, but just incase, these are thoughtforms similar to small energy balls which are designed to create supermassive black holes when detonated. Might want to shield yourself from gravity somehow while using these.

2. Sensory Overload - This is more useful against other real people from the waking world or tougher opponents. It's designed to overwhelm all or as many as possible of their senses simultaneously. Blinding light as bright as you can make it for their vision, the loudest psychic scream you can create for their hearing, imagine the worste possible pain you can then amplify and transmit it to them to overwhelm their sense of touch, ect. I know the whole 5 senses thing is bs but you can still run with this and get creative too. For example extreme darkness can also be blinding/disorienting but it's easier to counter and lacks the pain that super bright light can cause.

3. Caging/Trapping - One off my favorite cages involves placing them inside a room or Labryth which is cut off from the outside world, extremely hard to escape, and uses extreme TD to where they could wander around lost for many years. Is more effective when you also attack their lucidity, for obvious reasons.

That's all i have the time for now writing stuff of the top of my head but I would like to add much more later.

Even tho I'm pretty much repeating myself here, why does a master of lucid dreaming need combat moves except that it looks cool, oh yeah I forgot you gotta fight and protect yourself from the real people trying to hijack your dreams -.-''

I don't like calling out people and being a dick but there is nothing more I hate than liars over-exaggerating this stuff to a ludicrous degree.. Don't be that guy.