Thread: So, did anyone actually try heaving dream within a dream?

*pops up head and looks around for nina*
coast clear.
Just giving you a heads up, a dream within a dream is an illusion if you achieve it.

It's not possible to actually have a dream within a dream. Dreams aren't composed of layers; they're more of a linear system where if one ends, another will begin. Sometimes you might fall asleep in one dream and wake up in another, but you haven't actually gone down a level; like Arch said, it's just an illusion.

I have had dreams within dreams, but not because I was trying to. It's weird in a sense because you are really more aware that you are dreaming than when in most Lucid dreams.
When Lucid dreams started happening to me, I would have false awakenings, but still remember the dream I moved from to come into the new ones. I didn't think of them as dreams within dreams, but just successive dreams, but they developed in time to where they did develop layers and I could be aware of the layers within the layers. I even had dream characters or guides or whatever tell me that it was a dream within a dream. In a sense, life as we think we know it at a fairly mutually consensual level can be considered a dream, and then any night-time dream would of course be a dream within a dream.

Oh sure, i've done it. Like Puffin said it isn't really possible to have a dream inside of a dream. The only thing that happened was the dream scene changed. It felt like a different dream, but it was still the same one.

In my first ld i was nonlucid first and i fell asleep and woke up in the same environment but i was lucid

Originally Posted by Metallicuh

In my first ld i was nonlucid first and i fell asleep and woke up in the same environment but i was lucid

I've had a few non-lucids where I WILDed, and then in my new dream I was lucid as a result of the attempt, but I didn't realize the previous dreams weren't real until I woke up.

Same thing happened with me Puffin, I was non lucid and tried to WILD and it worked within seconds, I was soo happy and thought I had finally mastered WILD'ing, then i actually woke up and I was pissed.

I regularly have false awakenings, usually from a dream I remember, once I reallize the awakening isn't real I become lucid if I wasn't already.

I remember the first false awakening I had I was camping with my dad and uncle (in real life), I woke up from a nightmare in the tent in my bag with them next to me like normal, then some weird pirate looking dude sat up next to me and was like "hi!", I freaked and woke up for reals in the tent but was all scared another pirate was gonna pop up.

actually I had a dream where I wanted to change the dream so I closed my eyes. After closing my eyes I imagined something different happening and as I did this I heard the DCs from my original dream acting and talking like I imagined them doing in my mind. It was kind of weird because the dream characters now looked cartoonish but I had complete control and somehow knew I could always go back to the original dream.

Interesting, so, as I understand: You can't have a simulation with in a simulation? (dream with in a dream) anyone know why? Or have any theories/ideas?

Damn you Inception.

I've had dreams where I've fallen asleep in the dream, had a (seemingly) completely different dream, and then 'woke up' (still dreaming), back in the 'previous' dream that I was having before the intermission. It's an amazing and mind-f'cking experience.

However, I'm in the camp that believes that dreams don't actually have quantifiable 'layers' (like the movie Inception portrays), but are linear sequences that often give the illusion of having layers. You aren't actually going 'deeper' into your subconscious. You are simply viewing a timeline that seems like it is going 'deeper', while really just being a disjointed continuation of the initial dream.

Originally Posted by Puffin

It's not possible to actually have a dream within a dream. Dreams aren't composed of layers; they're more of a linear system where if one ends, another will begin. Sometimes you might fall asleep in one dream and wake up in another, but you haven't actually gone down a level; like Arch said, it's just an illusion.

Just like computers, the internet and anything remotely logical!

Of course! Several times actually, every time it is like changing rooms and... yeah thats about it, nothing special about it other than me having to wake up from each in-dream.

Also guys, don't forget that in "Inception" they were all sharing their dreams and as such, a dream within a dream was not part of just one person's dream. They would be in one person's dream, and then go down a level into someone's else's dream - not the same person.

As for dreaming itself, I've experienced dreaming and thinking about the dream I had just before the one I was currently having and what effect it had on me. It's definitely weird, or how someone put it here "it's a mind fuck" xD, but I don't suppose that would qualify as a dream within a dream, but rather as just being able to remember more than just the dream where you're currently lucid in.

Originally Posted by liVed

Also guys, don't forget that in "Inception" they were all sharing their dreams and as such, a dream within a dream was not part of just one person's dream. They would be in one person's dream, and then go down a level into someone's else's dream - not the same person.

That's actually a very good point, that I think most of us tend to forget.

I had a dream I was in school, I didn't really feel like being there. Everyone had to write a report about how much they enjoyed there time in high school. So I just crawled under my computer desk and took a nap. The illusion of a second dream happened as soon as I opened my eyes. I was in a giant field of various transgenic crops, there I could fly through the sky and make plants grow with my imaginations.
The best part was "waking up" from the second dream to have the report already done and the class ignoring my nap. Then I woke up in bed with a huge smile.
I rarely nap inside my lucid dreams though. Despite how awesome Inception is it rarely increases the perceived time I was dreaming.

Originally Posted by VexedVagabond

I had a dream I was in school, I didn't really feel like being there. Everyone had to write a report about how much they enjoyed there time in high school. So I just crawled under my computer desk and took a nap. The illusion of a second dream happened as soon as I opened my eyes. I was in a giant field of various transgenic crops, there I could fly through the sky and make plants grow with my imaginations.
The best part was "waking up" from the second dream to have the report already done and the class ignoring my nap. Then I woke up in bed with a huge smile.
I rarely nap inside my lucid dreams though. Despite how awesome Inception is it rarely increases the perceived time I was dreaming.

man i wish i could remember my dreams good and become lucid ;(