Thread: Who or what should we blame for the lack of lucidity ?

Originally Posted by Occipitalred

Well, you know how you can never remember the last minute before you fell asleep, most of your dreams, and some times that you woke up during the night. What if we never reach a level of 0 consciousness, we only reach a low level of consciousness and then, we also just don't stock the information in our long-term memory (not even the short one for that matter)?

At the same time, we all know that Lucid Dreaming is possible. It is possible to sleep and have a high level of consciousness. A low level of consciousness is therefore not a prerequisite of sleep. Some people even claim that they can be aware throughout their complete sleep period, although I am skeptical about that feat.

That´s something that sleep yogis attain with training..If one gets that far then it´s possible to hold lucidity throughout the sleep cycle, but that´s a skill and may be lost.

I have read scattered reports of people achieving natural, spontaneous non-rem sleep awareness ( or lucidity ? ) though...

So, i don´t know, may be our sleep physiology could be very different now if we had counted sheep when we were children ?

So, in this regard, what is hardwired and what is learned ? what is the difference and relation between the two ? We may have some hardwired potential, but there is an environment which selects and guides what potential is developed.

So, i am more willing to say that we have the "hardwire" potential to lucid dream ( and may be lucid sleep ? ), but our environment ( including our permeated and culturally shaped mind ) is not conducive to its flourishing, quite the opposite.

That´s why i think we should look carefully at children, if we want to help them keep their potential an develop it further I bet it would be much more simple than it sounds..