Thread: Reality Shifting / Dimension Jumping

I wasn't arguing, Eonnn, just offering an anecdotal example, and also my opinion about deciding that something is real because it showed up in a mathematician's equations. In truth, esoterica is a large part of my life, even if I am careful to maintain a narrow vein of skepticism just to ward off delusion, because delusion never helps. For instance, recently I imagined a curious possibility for time travel that fits nicely in this thread:

First, you must assume that dream-sharing is real. If it is real, it must exist outside the rules of space and time. This is because reports of dream-sharing seem to defy known physics (i.e., people dreamshare from different parts of the world, occasionally when they are sleeping at different relative times...it doesn't seem appropriate here, but I go into this here, if you're interested -- my views have evolved since then, but the basics are still there, I think). Given that, and toss in a couple of other things I've been considering (like that there is a unique energy created by our conscious thoughts, which is independent of space/time rules, and also that time itself might not exist), it isn't hard to imagine sharing a dream with yourself with that target self being sometime in the past. The process would be simple: just remember a dream you had in the past and join yourself there -- simple, yes, but really really hard to do, at least for me to date.

And that's just one thing; so please don't assume I'm some sort of materialistic skeptic simply because I choose to sigh lightly at the ability humans, myself included, have for attaching hope and meaning to pretty much anything, in this case the musings of mathematicians and astrophysicists. Just because some guy says there must be multiverses for his math to work doesn't mean we can all create our own universes with a decision. Magical thinking is a fine thing, but it might be better to simply stick to magic itself -- with it you do the same thing (alter your reality without physical means), but with magic you're just altering, and not creating (or hopping into) a new reality; seems a lot easier. Just sayin', not arguing!

Speaking of that:

Originally Posted by Eonnn

There is another way to 'reality hop' and it's by looking out for opportunities that present themselves and then acting on them immediately without hesitation. No matter how small the opportunity, if you take it, it will lead to another one and then another, and so on. Most people need to weigh things up first or are fearful to take the required action when an opportunity arrives, and then within an instant, the opportunity has passed.

This sounds more like an interesting life choice than it does creating new timelines; what am I missing here?

Also:

The other question people need to ask themselves is how easily can you reality hop in your lucid dreams? if it's not easy in dream life, then it will be even harder in waking life. Practicing in lucid's first might be a good idea.

That is certainly true, but keep in mind that reality-hopping in dreams, lucid or not, is almost a given. This is because your dream is your own created universe, so changing realities, or dreamscapes, really is the result of a decision, just as the options for that change are indeed infinite.... but that is in dreams, where the World is You; does that really translate to waking-life, where you are just part of the World, and not is creator?

Finally:

Also, I've given up trying to convince skeptics on things of this nature including anything else that is esoteric or spiritual. It just ends up in an argument most the time, and to quote Morpheus again "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." So now, instead I just present the information for any truth seeker to find that may stumble across it, the people who still have their mind closed will one day see the light, maybe not today or in this life time but the information will be there for when they do.

In addition to what I said above about my esoteric vocation: Keep in mind that, in the context of The Matrix, Morpheus was trying to describe a world that really was one Neo could change, because that world was a computer construct into which Neo's brain was wired. Unless we're all not experiencing reality but instead are coppertops plugged into a giant machine and we're having life projected into our comatose minds, then Morpheus' words might not work here, in a universe that will exist just fine without us. Shouldn't truth-seekers be shown the truth, rather than some distracting stuff that sounds really cool but may have no basis in reality? The Truth, after all, might be far more impressive even than reality-hopping; does it make sense to cloud a seeker's mind with stuff that might wind up obscuring that Truth, once they are able to open their minds?

Okay, maybe I'm arguing a little... sorry! But I hope you can understand that my skepticism is not based in a need to disprove your ideas, but rather in a much deeper need to suggest to truth seekers that not all paths are worth following, and once they're on a misleading path, they might find it very difficult to get back on the one that leads, finally, to Truth.