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      Hi there.

      What's up? tlaloc : did you continue to use this technique?

      I was doing some research on the forum about the effects of sleep interruptions on the sleep pattern for (for WILD purpose) and this brought me back to this thread.

      I have been trying to improve my WILD and DEILD skill for a while now, by using all sort of help : LD supplements (about 90% success rate, but this doesn't help me to lean how to WILD/DEILD naturally), REM-Dreamer pro (with or without recorded audio message), REM-Dreamer + Gymboss (vibrating alarm) and Gymboss only.
      I tried to WILD from N-REM sleep WBTB (still working on this following sageous's advices), and from REM sleep WBTB (using the Dream Alarm of my REM-Dreamer).

      Up to now, I only have got success with the LD supplements, but still waiting for any positive results on my WILD and DEILD attempts without supplements.
      Recently I stopped my experiments on REM interruption based WILD attempts (so I stopped to use the REM-Dreamer) but started to use my Gymboss as a reminder while I try to cross consciously the N-REM sleep.
      my attempts with the gymboss are noted in this thread
      But sumer holidays will interrupt those experiments as I will have to sleep every days with my Girlfriend.

      Anyway, I read this whole thread again and I think I better understood the important points of this technique this time.
      I never really tried it the way it was supposed to work but as I now have the vibrating alarm+ a flat speaker (from the REM-Dreamer pro) that I can attach to the RD mask to keep it close to my hear + a skandisk mp3 player , I suppose that I could give it some more serious tries during holidays.

      The only stuff that will be different is that I have to attach the mp3 player to the front side of the REM-Dreamer mask (without the RD device inside) because I move very much during the night and the wire that links the MP3 to the flat speaker is about 20cm long (less than 10 inches).
      So as the flat speaker AND the MP3 player will be attached to the floppy sleep mask (without the RD device) I will have to move my hand near my face to start the mp3 message.
      The vibrating alarm will be attached to my socket.

      I well understood that this technique is supposed to bring lucidity through DILD (mainly) , and that the Day training (Associate the RC to the vibrating alarm during the day) is a key point so that the "vibe" must act as a mind conditioning of awareness.

      The idea that the audio message will prevent a tolerance issue sounds good.
      as this night I sleep alone, I will give it a first try.
      Edit: I won't, I let my gymboss at my GF's home..

      This is the config I will use:


      you can clearly see the sleep mask (without the RD inside) + the mp3 player + the flat speaker and his wire.
      As the flat speaker is pressed against the hair-free skin under/behind my left ear, I can ear it loud even with the earplugs I use to sleep, because of the bone vibrations, without feeling any pain in the case I sleep in my left side, which is not the case if I put it just against my ear.

      Each time I will be awoken by the vibrating alarm, I just will have to turn the mp3 player ON by briefly pushing the Power button , wait for about 5 seconds, and press the play button, listen carefully to the message, and that's it (I checked that the mp3 player automatically turns off before the next vibrating alarm goes off 24 min later, so I don't have to turn it off manually which is good cause to do this I should have had to press the power button for several seconds contrary to the power ON process.)
      Last edited by Kaan; 07-20-2015 at 03:10 PM.
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