Hi everybody,

I am newbie but already started exploring & reading about this really interesting 'out-of-real-world' phenomena (internet really helps!),
but basically I just want to confirm with the real experts and any person who has experienced this first-hand: is this AP (astral projection) stuff really real? and not just a mere "escapism" from this harsh reality, by trying to say "yes dream world is real!!" kind of stuff.

I mean, I have always been an open-minded person and also somehow believe that there's still so much mystery in dreaming that hasn't been explored much yet.
But some skeptics friends of mine always kept saying of how those AP stuff is just bollocks/bullshits created by New-Agey people that doesn't have any basis on science and solid evidences and all, and basically it just serves as an "escapism" for people who can't handle reality/real world.

What do you all think?
Is there any good statement for countering these skeptics' statements, if these AP things indeed had been proven to really exist and happened?