Quote Originally Posted by linz2d View Post
Supernova No that's another misconception that I have noticed on Dreamviews, when one does astral projection(to project ones spirit) that does not mean they can just traverse the astral plane, the astral plane is not considered part of the physical world. If you experience an OBE/AP and see yourself sitting or lying in your room then you are not in the astral plane but that does not mean that you are not projecting your spirit outwards. If one has enough experience with OBE/AP then they are said to be able to visit the astral plane. In other words the astral plane is the spirit plane or spirit world. And thats when we really go into the mystical stuff.
Again, you are trying to blur the lines between a mental OOBE and a physical "separation of consciousness from the physical body."

When you are implying that the "spirit is projected from the body," you are implying an actual separation of your focal point to a point outside the body. Whether you are talking about traversing to the astral plane, or just sitting there and hovering around your own body, makes no difference. If one is dreaming that they are looking down at their body, this does not mean their "spirit" has been "projected" outside of their body. It means their mind is creating the illusion of being outside their body. (And I'm speaking in absolutes, only because I am going by the scientific consensus.) To imply that envisioning yourself outside of your body means that your spirit/consciousness/essence has actually separated from your body (meaning that what you see, in this state, is the actual, physical realm, and not a dream) is, in itself, mystical.

You cannot speak of a spirit as not mystical, and a spirit realm as mystical, without making some sort of comprehensive distinction between the two. If you are implying that your "spirit" is being projected to any place other than your own head, during an "astral projection" you are employing mysticism.