Thread: New movement free rc idea. I need testers!!!

Originally Posted by stonedape

I'll give it a try

Cool.. keep us posted..

I did it this morning and it didn't work (I assume because I breathe through my nose) and so I just went on with the dream.

Make sure you are doing it correctly. There was a little correction needed from the my original post. You are focusing on breathing outward only being sure that your lips are tightly closed. If you can can breath outward even though your mouth is fully closed, then you will be dreaming, confirm by using a second RC. If you cannot breath outward, you are not lucid and your cheeks should swell with air.

I tried this several different ways in my last lucid. I became lucid by using this method, then tried the RC several different ways.
It worked as expected every time on slow semi-forceful exhale. Inhale was very unreliable and when attempting to switch between nose breathing and mouth breathing I was having problems determining if I was breathing out with enough force. When clearly focusing on breathing outward though my mouth, I was able to every time even though my lips were tightly closed. There is no mistaking where I am breathing from when I do it this way. Let me know how further testing goes. Do not use this RC as your only RC until you have used it successfully enough to know it works reliably for you.

i am willing to test this. i have to make it my routine in RL but i will try!

Originally Posted by TomBurnsIsAwake

i am willing to test this. i have to make it my routine in RL but i will try!

Cool Thx

This worked again for me last night. Am I the only one? lol

Managed to try this again last night (during a WILD). Didn't work for me (nose pinch did). I'm guessing it's because my mouth is closed while sleeping.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Managed to try this again last night (during a WILD). Didn't work for me (nose pinch did). I'm guessing it's because my mouth is closed while sleeping.

Thats so strange.. even with your mouth closed while sleeping you should be able to blow through your lips if you try.. this may not be 100 percent success but it seems to be working for some.. works for me everytime... maybe more testing will tell for sure..

Btw.. what is your primary method for LD since you have so many?

DILDs, mostly, but I WILD when those are infrequent.

i need more vividness lately.... theres some kind of supplement that can help. would any supplement affect this test?

Originally Posted by TomBurnsIsAwake

i need more vividness lately.... theres some kind of supplement that can help. would any supplement affect this test?

Honestly, this post is about testing a New Movement Free Rc, Not supplements, however, I will answer your question. melatonin is the only supplement I personally use and thats because it is natural. Its naturally a part of the sleeping/waking process already so I don't feel bad using it occasionally to help me sleep earlier..

Its side effect however is vivid dreams. While taking melatonin, you typically wont enter REM at all until much much later in the night.. and at the end of your sleep cycle your REM will be stronger and longer lasting, hence, giving the opportunity for much more vivid lds. Works for me. But do not take something like this nightly, as it (might) take away from your natural ability to fall asleep as well..

For more information, go to the lucid aids section.

I may have slightly misunderstood your question, but I do not see why a supplement would effect this test.

i think that the vividness is vividness of all senses, therefore the more i or anyone who cant seem to get this to work would feel their mouth more?
i suppose anyway... just curious if it would help while testing this technique, sorry if its off topic tho=O my bad

Tested out the new blow test RC on my WILD attempt just the other day. It confirmed I was awake. I don't know if that helps you or not, really

Okay I'm a bit of a noob so please feel free to point out any horrendous mistakes I make with this suggestion. But this sort of dilemma occurred to me last night as I was trying to get to sleep, but I realised that when sleeping my tongue is just touching my teeth. Therefore I tried to confirm a FA by biting down on my tongue to see if I felt pain or not.

Pain is one of those things that can be replicated in a dream. Anything that can be replicated can also fail in a dream or pass based on the dream itself or your belief of whether it will or wont lol.. You can mostly only rely on bodily rcs that most likely would not fail or pass based on what is really going on physically and nonphysically.. such as being able to "physically blow" past your "nonphysical closed lips". Or breath "physically" though your "nonphysically closed off mouth and nose". Breathing is the most reliable because we can control it, and do control it the same, whether we are dreaming, or not dreaming, and in both of these states we can consciously control it.

Just thought I would update you on my experiences with the blow through RC method.
Since my last post I have had two lucids in which I decided to re test this RC, to see if it
still worked.

On both nights I found that breathing normally through closed lips worked fine every time for me.
Surprisingly for some reason if I blew really hard against my lips the technique failed.

I am really pleased with this RC and will be using it as my main RC.

Originally Posted by DREAMER242000

Just thought I would update you on my experiences with the blow through RC method.
Since my last post I have had two lucids in which I decided to re test this RC, to see if it
still worked.

On both nights I found that breathing normally through closed lips worked fine every time for me.
Surprisingly for some reason if I blew really hard against my lips the technique failed.

I am really pleased with this RC and will be using it as my main RC.

Awesome. This is definitely good news I have determined that blowing outward hard seems to have a couple undesirable effects so breathing out normally through closed lips seems to be the way to go...

Been incorporating this into my regular RC routine..haven't had the chance to test in an LD yet but I love the idea of it, definitely the easiest and most discreet RC to do. I'll let ya know how it goes next time I'm lucid

Originally Posted by Weight

Been incorporating this into my regular RC routine..haven't had the chance to test in an LD yet but I love the idea of it, definitely the easiest and most discreet RC to do. I'll let ya know how it goes next time I'm lucid

For sure. That would be awesome.. This works really well for me too and I've been using it as my main RC, except at times, just to authenticate, but it hasn't failed me yet

I sleep with my mouth open and I can't see any other reasons it might fail, stoked

Nice.
I tried it and it worked.

Ok. Here is my list of movment free reality checks I use every night.

The Blindfold

+ If you can see no doubt about it
+ Easy to do

- Unconformable if bought in the $5. I recommend the $20 to $30 range
- May fall of while your sleeping, run downstairs and try to fly out your window falling on ground (Embarrassing, happened to me)

Closed Eyelids

+ No doubt about it once it works

- May wake your self up by opening real eyes
- Could cause you to have a blind lucid dream

Spoon bending (Sleep with a spoon in your hand)

+ If by moving only the tips of your fingers you can bend a spoon, welcome
+ Easy and requires little movement
+ My favorite

- Could be uncomfortable to hold it

There you go

Sweet. All the MFRC from Lucidiology 101. lol