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      This ADA stuff has really helped me

      It's weird because back when I first started getting into LDs and this forum I kinda turned RCing into just practicing awareness. I slacked off lucid dreaming for a while but always kept it in my mind, and lately, since getting out of a long depression I've turned around from my "never thinking" attitude (which I used purely as a defense mechanism for harmful thoughts) and around that time this "ADA" topic starts popping up on dreamviews!

      idk how long the talk has been going on but since I found the idea here again I've been doing it and it's been alarmingly effective. I feel my dreams slowly becoming more vivid and longer, I also read today that meditation can replace some non REM sleep cycles to increase dreamtime in the night, so I've started that again too.

      eh this is kinda like a journal entry but, I'll post it here, just for ADA reassurances.
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      Always good to see improvement
      Tried ADA, seems like it would help immensely, but I couldn't keep it on my mind for longer than a few minutes.
      I'm always really busy.

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      good to know that its working for you ;D

      Quote Originally Posted by 44CalibreSunlight View Post
      I also read today that meditation can replace some non REM sleep cycles to increase dreamtime in the night, so I've started that again too.
      really? let me know how that works out
      Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyyy0 View Post
      Tried ADA, seems like it would help immensely, but I couldn't keep it on my mind for longer than a few minutes.
      I'm always really busy.
      Thats impressive seeing as you still manage a couple LDs a week ;D

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      I never really liked the thought of ADA. It seems to take much more work than neccessary to get resaults that you can with easier techniques.

      But really its whatever works for you.

      I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride

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      Ada?

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      It means all day awareness. Its basically a DILD on steroids.
      Last edited by dakotahnok; 06-03-2011 at 05:40 AM.
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      Awesome .44 ! I'm glad it is helping you out! It not only helps with LDing, but it can help you be more alert in waking life as well. Most people just zombie themselves around for half of the day. It really wakes you up, in a sense .

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      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Most people just zombie themselves around for half of the day. It really wakes you up, in a sense .
      @Dakota - I don't think of it as work at all... And how is it like DILD on steroids? ADA makes you realize people go through their entire day on auto, much like a dream...

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      "We don't question dreams when we sleep because they seem as real as reality. Neither do we question reality because we 'know' it's real. Knowing this, we then ask the question: What does it mean to be awake?"

      i love this quote :p especially the last part of it. I always ask myself this when I practice ADA, although i've been busy/lazy lately
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      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      I never really liked the thought of ADA. It seems to take much more work than neccessary to get resaults that you can with easier techniques.

      But really its whatever works for you.
      This.

      How the hell do you keep awareness when you're doing stuff?

      I like to be immersed in things. Not constantly thinking about whether I'm dreaming or not.

      Mentally multitasking is what fucked me up for a while. I started not focusing entirely on anything and always thinking about other shit.

      Help!

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      Technically, you don't even have to question your reality with ADA practice...ever. You simply apply all of your sense and learn to be aware of what is going on with and around you. You certainly shouldn't always be wondering if you are dreaming or not. ADA practice grants you the ability to tell the difference between reality and the dream state naturally. Your mind and body are always doing stuff, people just usually overlook and take the little things for granted. ADA helps you pick up on the finer things in every day life. Indeed, it isn't for everyone though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      I never really liked the thought of ADA. It seems to take much more work than neccessary to get resaults that you can with easier techniques.

      But really its whatever works for you.
      I would say there are very noticeable results to both dreaming and waking life, more accurate perception, clearer thinking and greater appreciation in both realms. In my opinion it's worth the initial hurdle.
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      But you know I know when it's a dream
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      That is I think I disagree

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      Haha, I did this before I ever joined DreamViews!

      I agree that most people just zombie half of their lives away. I usually notice a lot of things other people do not, and this helps me LD.
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      Being more aware of your senses helps you find the flaws in the dream world right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Technically, you don't even have to question your reality with ADA practice...ever. You simply apply all of your sense and learn to be aware of what is going on with and around you. You certainly shouldn't always be wondering if you are dreaming or not. ADA practice grants you the ability to tell the difference between reality and the dream state naturally. Your mind and body are always doing stuff, people just usually overlook and take the little things for granted. ADA helps you pick up on the finer things in every day life. Indeed, it isn't for everyone though.
      So you're saying that you automatically realise you are dreaming just because you pay attention to all of your senses and surroundings while awake?

      Maybe I had the wrong idea about it. Hmmmm.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyyy0 View Post
      Tried ADA, seems like it would help immensely, but I couldn't keep it on my mind for longer than a few minutes.
      That's the same problem I have with it. I just find it hard to stay focused. I've got better since I started imagining that my entire life was a huge advert for Sky HD.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      I would say there are very noticeable results to both dreaming and waking life, more accurate perception, clearer thinking and greater appreciation in both realms. In my opinion it's worth the initial hurdle.
      Maybe for you. And in quoting me you would see that i said "but really its whatever works for you." Anyway in my opinion there are easier ways to do what ADA does.


      Quote Originally Posted by Desert Claw View Post
      @Dakota - I don't think of it as work at all... And how is it like DILD on steroids? ADA makes you realize people go through their entire day on auto, much like a dream...
      Well i guess your opinion is differient. But i find that when I practice ADA it works the opposite. I try my best to be focused, aware, and paying attention to the little stuff that most of the time my mind is in a cloud and i cant really enjoy the things going on.

      Also its like a DILD because

      1) there are really only two techniques. DILD and WILD. This would fallow in the DILD catagory.

      2) Most of the basic DILD guides say that you should periodicaly do reality checks. And in ada its like a constant reality check. Thats where i get my "steroids."

      I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride

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      Quote Originally Posted by TeaSea View Post
      That's the same problem I have with it. I just find it hard to stay focused. I've got better since I started imagining that my entire life was a huge advert for Sky HD.
      This reminds me of when we got Sky HD, it was 2004 and I was 9 or 10, I asked my Dad if we see in HD *facepalm*

      But yeah, for the visual aspect of ADA it does help to compare your vision to the best HD TV ever made.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      Also its like a DILD because

      1) there are really only two techniques. DILD and WILD. This would fallow in the DILD catagory.

      2) Most of the basic DILD guides say that you should periodicaly do reality checks. And in ada its like a constant reality check. Thats where i get my "steroids."
      In a way it's almost a MILD, because aren't you really 'incubating reality' with ADA? You're informing, explicitly, your mind on the difference between reality and dreams and at the same time storing in your memory exactly what waking life looks/feels/sounds like to make your dreams more vivid.
      My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
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      Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut

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      That is I think I disagree

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      In a way it's almost a MILD, because aren't you really 'incubating reality' with ADA? You're informing, explicitly, your mind on the difference between reality and dreams and at the same time storing in your memory exactly what waking life looks/feels/sounds like to make your dreams more vivid.
      MILD is also a form of DILD. He's certainly right about every technique being either DILD or WILD. And well, what works works That's ADA for many, but not nearly all of us

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spyguy View Post
      MILD is also a form of DILD. He's certainly right about every technique being either DILD or WILD. And well, what works That's ADA for many, but not nearly all of us
      I'm not saying MILD is not a form of DILD, and Dakotahnok is definitely right in saying every technique will branch off DILD or WILD.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      So you're saying that you automatically realise you are dreaming just because you pay attention to all of your senses and surroundings while awake?

      Maybe I had the wrong idea about it. Hmmmm.
      Yeah, exactly. The more you notice in waking life, the more you notice in the dream world. In particularly, the feeling of being awake compared to being in a dream. With ADA, I realize I am dreaming simply because I am in a dream.

      Quote Originally Posted by Desert Claw View Post
      Being more aware of your senses helps you find the flaws in the dream world right?
      Yeah, it will help you see the flaws around you. More importantly though, it helps you naturally distinguish the difference between being awake and being in a dream. You simply will know/realize you are dreaming because you are (dreaming).

      Quote Originally Posted by Spyguy View Post
      MILD is also a form of DILD. He's certainly right about every technique being either DILD or WILD. And well, what works works That's ADA for many, but not nearly all of us
      Everyone forgets the red-headed step child, EILD . You guys are right though, ADA is indeed a DILD/MILD technique (elements of both). Every lucid dream does fall under either DILD, WILD, or EILD.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Desert Claw View Post
      good to know that its working for you ;D

      Thats impressive seeing as you still manage a couple LDs a week ;D
      Oh, you mean my sig? Those are just my goals for the summer, not how many LDs I get a week right now. I only get about one a month @-@

      If I could get 2-3 a week though, man that would be something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Everyone forgets the red-headed step child, EILD . You guys are right though, ADA is indeed a DILD/MILD technique (elements of both). Every lucid dream does fall under either DILD, WILD, or EILD.
      EILD is a DILD if it makes you lucid in the dream and EILD is a WILD if it makes you lucid from a waking state.

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      Dreams have a different feeling than real life. If you are good at staying aware, you will automatically notice this difference. When you record your dreams in your journal, try to recall how they felt. Do it the same way you pay attention to things in Yoshi's ADA tutorial. You have practice maintaining your awareness while awake. You know what it feels like to be awake and aware. How does it feel to be asleep and aware?

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