Thread: Spellbee's Spooky Competition 2016

Originally Posted by Elaineylane

1 1/2 pts- non-lucid
2 pts- wbtb
= 3 1/2 pts + 102= 105 1/2 (should be 2 pts more but the mods said no but not sure why so I'd like to know the reason for this plz.)

From your DJ last night:

Originally Posted by Elaineylane

10 pts- First WILD of the Night
5 pts- Subsequent WILDs
2 pts- Chain a lucid
2 pts- wbtb
2 pts- interact w/ a dream character
10 pts- teleport

=31 pts & total (31+73=104 Total Contest so far)

D3 ... I then jump forward in time & I'm w/ Gail which is my ex-girlfriend. I'm so excited to see her. I'm telling her that I just came from the past. Then my alarm goes off for my wbtb.
D4: She is still there in my WILD, now I'm chaining a WILD. But we start walking. It's all hard to describe. ...

The key is that you get up for a WBTB, which instantly makes it not a chain. As described (in quite arduous detail, I might add) in this post, a Lucid Chain (for points purposes) is waking up for a few seconds before falling back into a lucid (see "DEILD method"). On the other hand, WBTB by definition means that you get up for several minutes before lying back down and falling back asleep (see "WBTB method"). Thus, you can not do a WBTB and a DEILD (lucid chain) at the same time. So since you had a WILD after the WBTB, that counts as a "subsequent WILD" and not a "lucid chain", giving you a nightly total of 29 points.

The only way you could've DEILDed the way you described it is if you had an auto-shut-off alarm that turns itself off after a few seconds, needing no interaction from you as you quickly slip back into the dream. But like I said in the other post, points for subsequent WILDs and lucid chains are mutually exclusive. Let me reiterate - points for lucids and lucid chains are mutually exclusive. The "lucid chain" category is not a bonus 2 points for having two lucids in a row - it's its own action that has its own category of points. So even if you had DEILDed with an auto-alarm, you would've gotten 2 for the chain, but not the 5 for the 2nd WILD, giving you 26 points instead. So honestly, not counting it as a chain and scoring it as 29 points is giving you the benefit of the doubt.

If anyone has any further questions about the difference between chain and non-chain, PM me. No sense in cluttering up this thread any more when it's already been spelled out in full detail twice.

On a side note, I'm not leading this comp because of my position, I'm leading it as a forum member that wants to give people the extra motivation they need to get serious about lucid dreaming. So please, leave "the mods" out of this.

Night 4

Half dream.
Failed wake back to bad.
Hitmen! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Night total: 2,5
Comp total: 73,5

night 5
2 non ld 2 points

total comp points 49

Night #4
7 non-lucids: 7
WBTB: 2

night total: 9

Night #5:

3 non-lucids: 3
1 frag: 0.5
night total: 3.5

competition total: 18 + 9 + 3.5 = 30.5

Night 4

4 non-lucids: 4
WB2B: 2
First WILD of the night: 10
Reality Check: 1
Fly: 5
Gain Invulnerability: 5
Fully Phase through Big Solid Object: 10
Interact with Dream character: 2

Dream journal

night total: 39

Competition Total: 65

2 dreams-2 points

Total: 35.5

+2 dreams last night

Huh, I thought we were on day 6 or 7 already

Night 4
2 Dreams: 2 Points
2 Fragments: 1 Point
WBTB: 2 Points
+6 DJ Comments: 2 Points

Competition Total: 29 + 7 = 36 Points

Night 5

Remember 3 Full Non-Lucid Dreams - 3 points
Remember 4 Non-Lucid Fragments - 2 points
WBTB - 2 points


Night Total - 7 points
Competition Total - 136,5 points

no lucidity at all... i even had one dream where gravity stopped and i got lifted up in the air with a friend, we saw wingsuit-guys and a lot of people on the ocean with boats and stuff. we landed on one but nothing suspicious about it right?!
and recall was only with some effort... but whatever new night new luck

Originally Posted by Saizaphod

Huh, I thought we were on day 6 or 7 already
Night 4

Originally Posted by RelaxAndDream

Night 6

Lol. Either you tried to mess with my mind or you're time traveling

Originally Posted by Saizaphod

Lol. Either you tried to mess with my mind or you're time traveling

Hehe actually it is day 5 for me xD but because of your post I "accidently" wrote day 6 :-) and yes time travel ofcorse

Nights 4 & 5 = 10 points
DJ entry : SSC2016 - Nights 4 and 5 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Total = 20 points

Competition Night 5
3 non-lucids - 3 points
WBTB - 2 points

Night Total: 5 points
Competition Total: 46 points

Early start, then late night. Not much sleep.

night 4
3nd - 3
wbtb - 2

night total - 5
sub total - 147.5

night 5
1nd - 1
wbtb - 2

night total - 3
sub total - 150.5

4 NLDs-4 points

competition total-130 points

Night 5:
1 Non-lucid dream:1 point
DILDs: 10 Points
Mass telekinesis:10 points
WBTB: 2 points
Chaining: 2 points
Night total: 25 points
Competition total:75

This was a weird night, with some foggy memories, but was also pretty interesting.

Spoiler for Dreams:

I was in some kind of ancient ruins in the middle of a jungle with a group of people. Suddenly, we knew there was some kind of monster protecting those ruins and it was chasing us. I remember the monster having some gold details, being bulky and made of stone with some ivy on it and maybe some aztec motifs on it. Someone mentioned I knew how to avoid this monster because of a Scooby Doo game I played (I actually played one in waking life once where you visit a museum and have to avoid a monster) so they were relying on me to safely avoid the monster. We ran around for a bit in the ruins and I remember hiding somewhere. I suddenly got lucid and decided I wanted to change the scenario, but the dream quickly began to fade away. I felt myself waking up so I decided to close my eyes and chain another LD. I felt my physical body and could see a faint image of the dream. It was like I was in a half-awake state. I them entered another dream while I could still see the previous dream. Eventually the old dream faded away and I had fully entered the new dream.

In this dream I was still lucid and in some kind of library. I messed around with some books using telekinesis (by holding out my hand and imagining the books moving around). I remembered that there was a "mass telekinesis" advanced task for the competition, so I started to gather a bunch of books together with TK. I got quite a few of them together (around 10 or so) hovering in front of me. However the dream didn't last very long as it started to fade away and I suddenly lost my vision. I could still move around and feel the dream, so I was trying to think of something to bring my vision back. I opened up my eye a little, but I think I opened my real eye so I closed it again. Eventually I opened my eyes for real and woke up.

Yep... it was pretty weird. Especially the part where I saw two dreams at the same time. The level of lucidty also was kinda low, which may be why I almost couldn't remember the telekinesis part. Oh, I also had a non-lucid where I was playing (and reviewing, I think) a Paper Mario game on the 3DS, it was on a beach stage where I met King Daphnes from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker and he had some machine on his head that told us something about Star Fox. Then some scene with Falco and Fox played out. Falco had a brush on his hand and was talking about how Fox abandoned Star Fox. It looked like they were fighting, but it was revealed to be just a friendly conversation.

+1 dream
I'd a nap just minutes ago, so total today (19th Oct) is 3 dreams yet so far.

Night 5:
1 NLD + 1 fragment = 1.5 points
WBTB = 2 points
Night total: 3.5 points
Competition total: 30.5 points

DJ Entry

night 5
wbtb 1 fragment 1 NLD

total 15.5

@Cookino you don't get both second DILD and chaining just the chaining so would be 10 for first and then 2 for chain

I only count 1 dream per cycle or awakening so like once I had a DILD where I lost lucidity then gained it back then lost it again then gained it back and then DEILD back into new dream. If it had been in this competition it would be tweleve points. not like twenty-seven

@Saizaphod / RelaxAndDream

It is day also still day five for me in Kalifornia, but day six for others depending on time zone
However, I don't seem to be able to get to sleep much I'll try for at least 3 more dreams hopefully a lucid
only 5 dreams so far tho the last two had many scenes, and some good and stupid stuff in them
after my next lucid I'll change my count to "96SinceJoin+10" and be on my way to 100 lucids since join DreamViews

Recalled 3 fragments - 1p.

Still some non-lucid bits. I think I'll need to get a good motivation kick to finally get lucid during this competition (really helped with two last lucids before the comp).

Fifth Night

Two non lucid fragments: 1 point
Two non lucid dreams: 2 points
WBTB attempt: 2 points

Night total: 5 points
Competition total: 19.5

I had a rough day yesterday, so rest was my top priority. Thus, I didn't do a WBTB and (surprisingly) didn't recall any dreams. Sooo...

Night 6 Total - 0 pts
Competition Total - 91 pts

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I need to clarify "Lucid Chain", because some people are still scoring it wrong.

A lucid chain is:
- Being in a lucid dream, waking up for a brief amount of time, and then falling immediately back asleep into the same/another lucid.
- Performing a DEILD after waking up from an already-existing lucid

Here's a perfect example of a lucid chain, from Cookino's dream entry above:

Originally Posted by Cookino

I suddenly got lucid and decided I wanted to change the scenario, but the dream quickly began to fade away. I felt myself waking up so I decided to close my eyes and chain another LD. I felt my physical body and could see a faint image of the dream. It was like I was in a half-awake state. I them entered another dream while I could still see the previous dream. Eventually the old dream faded away and I had fully entered the new dream.

A lucid chain is not:
- Having 2 lucid dreams in the same night/in a row (count those as two separate lucids - the "lucid chain" is not a bonus)
- Performing a DEILD after waking up from a non-lucid dream (per the rules, that counts as a WILD)
- Two separate dreams having the same content (that's just two separate dreams, so count it as such)

Also, the points for DILD/WILD and the points for Lucid Chain are mutually exclusive - you don't get points for DILD/WILD and lucid chain for a single DEILD. A lucid chain is worth less than those for a reason - the transition is easier than a full WILD, and you don't have to rely on your faulty dream logic like in a DILD.

The "Lucid Chain" category name was something that was grandfathered in from when Sensei was running the competition, and I imagine the name was used as a general "blanket category" to cover DEILD/FILD/EILD/etc. - basically any method where you wake up for a short amount of time and maintain awareness as you quickly drift back to sleep. But if it clarifies exactly what it means, I'll just change the name to something involving DEILD.

Also, I'm heading out of town tomorrow through Sunday, so scoresheet updates might be delayed while I'm traveling.

Ah thanks cooley and spellbee for clarifying that, so chaining doesn't really count for "subsequent DILDs", actually makes more sense now that I think about it. I edited the post to fix the points.

Edit: Just noticed I had given myself like 235 for the competition total O.o no idea where I got that from, sorry guys!

Night 5

1 non lucid dream (2 fragments that count as one dream).

Night total: 1 point.

Competition total: 11 1/2 points.