Thread: A recurring DC in my dreams which doesn't behave like any other DC's

Originally Posted by Waterknight

well the mind is certainly capable of making something like this up, especially in a dream.

If he didn't know of Yuya's apparent powers, how did she manage to wake him up at the beginning of this whole thing? He wasn't able to maintain any control over her.

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

What proof do you have of dream/astral planes?

Read the DJs and archived DJs of WakingNomad, Raven Knight, and Man of Shred. You can't tell me they are all coincidences.

lol

I'm sure that we don't have the knowledge to fully understand all of it with logic, yet.

However, continuing with that-does-not-compute logic and advocacy of that side, it could be a conspiracy between the three. It is logically possible.

I don't quite believe this, due to the community atmosphere of DV and of the exclusive nature of LDing. UFO's and such are much higher on the list of, "Hey, let's fuck with people today."

However, we also cannot draw any other conclusions until we gain more empirical data.

EDIT: ANOTHER PAGE WOOT.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

If he didn't know of Yuya's apparent powers, how did she manage to wake him up at the beginning of this whole thing? He wasn't able to maintain any control over her.



Read the DJs and archived DJs of WakingNomad, Raven Knight, and Man of Shred. You can't tell me they are all coincidences.

Yes, anything at all, from the core of the planet to the edge of your imagination, can be controlled in your dream to some extent. You would be able to even push a shared dreamer out by trying to un-summon them. So you could definitely control your own sub-conscious, it is what actually what moves your body parts and such, first the conscious thinks it, then sub-conscious does it.

Yuya is obviously far out of his control and smarter than his sub-conscious. She is something different.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

Read the DJs and archived DJs of WakingNomad, Raven Knight, and Man of Shred. You can't tell me they are all coincidences.

That ain't proof, not at all.
Also, Hyu already stated that he won't decide on what yuya is, he is happy with she being there, so thats why nobody is attacking his beliefs, the ones who are pushing it into BD material are mostly his readers, but thats irrelevant <.<
I mean... I'm pretty sure I were to write about my recent found DG, some people would think she is more than a DC, but that would be irrelevant to me.

I think this must all be in the subconscious - you have a half-formed thought of "Ooh maybe this is happening!" and it fully manifests itself in your dream.

Not trying to put you down or anything Hyu, it's still fascinating and I'd love to be able to experience it for myself. I'm just a very science minded guy.

I am starting to get pretty PO'd that everyone is using the word "Manifest", there is some evidence she MIGHT be his sub-conscious tricking him, and there is evidence that she can't be any part of his mind at all.

Originally Posted by MIIISTERNEUGIT

I am starting to get pretty PO'd that everyone is using the word "Manifest", there is some evidence she MIGHT be his sub-conscious tricking him, and there is evidence that she can't be any part of his mind at all.

I wouldn't really call any of it evidence, I mean, that's the whole problem right? That there is zero scientific evidence for any of these ideas.
It's more like a mix of thoughts, feelings and theories.

The maddening part is the complete lack of evidence either way.

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

The maddening part is the complete lack of evidence either way.

That's the problem, I think. I have seen no evidence that Yuya is anything beyond what Hyu could dream up on his own. The only thing that I can think of that would prove anything is if she would tell Hyu some fact that he could not possibly know, but is verifiable. Other than that, it could all be a dream.

Meanwhile, there is no way to prove that she is not anything more than a dream. If she is her own entitiy, I wonder if she is living within Hyu's mind only (the same way that certain types of bacteria live in our bodies), or if she is seperate from him and lives in the dream plane itself.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

Which was what I was talking about. We do have somebody on here that claims to be able to do that, and he has done it on me before I even knew about it. Confused me a lot until I read a certain post of his.

who?

yeah, i agree, she might be real, and she might not. and, no offense to Hyu, but even if he posted an experience that would prove her existence, it wouldn't be concrete proof, as it would only be his word. on the other hand, there is absolutely nothing preventing her existence. maybe hyu could ask her if she is capable of proving to US in some way.

Yes, WristBlade is right. I already believe that she is real, but it would be nice to have it proven to me, just ask her.

Originally Posted by MIIISTERNEUGIT

Yes, WristBlade is right. I already believe that she is real, but it would be nice to have it proven to me, just ask her.

In case everyone forgot I already suggested this a while back, if we ask her to show up in all our dreams(or get her friends too and tell us something), that would be a sure-fire way to seal the deal on this. I'll leave the offer to Hyu and Yuya to decide whether to prove themselves because the point might be to take it on our own and find a DG and SG ourselves

Either way, pressuring Hyu for proof gets us nothing at the moment.

I am content reading about it. It is an interesting read, real or not.

Originally Posted by Suicideking

I'll leave the offer to Hyu and Yuya to decide whether to prove themselves because the point might be to take it on our own and find a DG and SG ourselves

But then we are only as sure about our own as Hyu is of his (but yes, we should seek out our own), and if Yuya tells us something that can't possibly be coincidence and tells Hyu what she told us, then there would be no way to prove it more than that. And maybe she could tell each of us a piece of a puzzle, and we have to all post what she told us to figure out what the puzzle was. That could not come by coincidence.

I don't see how this would work, I don't even see how she could prove it to myself.
Even if she does something extraordinary, it could still be a coincidence.
I believe that with the current technology, collecting any kind of evidence is absolutely impossible.

Ok I agree, that's proof enough for me. Put me on yuya's good list cause yuya is comin to town! Haha o I miss the Christmas spirit. Any1 else want to volunteer with me? But once again it's up to hyu and his recall has sucked because of college so this plan won't be happening for a while but I can wait.

How would I not volunteer? And if Hyu does decide to ask her and she can do it, it will make me lucid no doubt, and I can try my whole "Summon my Sub-Conscious and tell him to make me lucid every night" idea.

I'll keep a list in my room, so myself and MIIISTER so far. Is there a cap limit to this?

I volunteer if hyu goes through with it. if it works, this will be one of the greatest scientific discoveries ever. extra-dimentional life.

Interdreamer puzzles? That sounds kickass! I volunteer for it.

However I doubt it will go anywhere. Either way, we should see how this story proceeds naturally for now.

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

Interdreamer puzzles? That sounds kickass! I volunteer for it.

However I doubt it will go anywhere. Either way, we should see how this story proceeds naturally for now.

Hey it might.

And it would be so cool (if of course you believe in shared dreaming), if we could watch these dreams of Hyu's in Teraluna in our own, just like a super cool movie. All you have to do is say the word Hyu, just say "Anyone who wants to watch my dreams can." and grant us passage.

It's a good idea, and it would certainly be exciting to test.
However I don't see this happening anytime soon.

I tried to do the advanced task of the month last month, which should have been really easy for me considering that portals / wormhole are a common theme in my dreams.
However I was unable to remember this rather simple task in my dreams, even though I tried pretty hard.
I hope I'll be able to remember my goals more easily one day, in which case I'd love to try something like this, but right now I don't have the confidence to pull something this complex at all.

why don't you ask yuya how to remember your goals? she seems to know like, everything about lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

why don't you ask yuya how to remember your goals? she seems to know like, everything about lucid dreaming.

That's actually the first point on my current list of goals.
But yet again, the problem is to actually remember to do so whilst dreaming.

If it ever comes down to it, put me on the list for the Visitation by Yuya experiment. As an aspiring biologist, I would love to be in on the discovery of a new life form. Of course, Hyu himself hasn't suggested it (or Yuya for that matter), so I won't impose upon him or his companion. It's up to them. And of course, maybe she can't exist outside of Hyu's mind. Or maybe she doesn't know how to pinpoint minds to visit. And even then, how would she know how to contact us, since all she would know is what Hyu knows about us, and that is next to nothing. We're just usernames in a forum.