My WILD attempt- What went wrong?

**Chizu** · 11-10-2023 12:58 PM

So last night, I thought I'd attempt a WILD. I fell asleep at 1am, woke up naturally around 5am (one hour before the alarm I had set for WBTB). I decided to get up, piss and write down a quick dream journal entry on my phone of a single dream I just remembered. I tried to make sure that I wasn't too AWAKE. Then, I started the process.

I stayed as still as possible, trying to calm down my mind. I focused on just the sounds of air entering and exiting through my nose. I felt weird sensations in my body and I even started shaking (I'm gonna assume I did something incredibly wrong here because I'm sure that's not meant to happen) At first I tried to visualise my last dream, and what I would do there. My mind just kept running though, and I couldn't focus. I then started to sculpt a new dream in my head, the setting etc where I would be once I was in the dream.

It got to the point where there was a lot of hypnagogic imagery, some of it bright etc, however I never got anything SOLID that I could use to enter a dream. An important note is that all this time, I was staying completely still. (This will be important later) Eventually, I felt like I was just going in circles. There was never anything solid, and I could tell some time had passed by then. Additionally, my limbs started to hurt from staying still. At this point, I gave up and decided to just move, and check the time. It was 6am, I had passed an entire hour simply laying still and I never got close to entering a lucid dream.

This is where what I mentioned earlier becomes important. I'm a weird sleeper and I fall asleep quicker by moving around. For example, I move my arms, my legs to get comfortable. I'm sort of constantly shifting my position in the bed around. This made me tired VERY quickly as it's what I usually do to fall asleep. I thought about attempting the WILD technique here again, but it would be useless since I'd be constantly moving right? I decided to just go for MILD. In the end, I had no lucid dreams however I was able to recall about 3 dreams when I woke up around 4 hours later.

Did I do WBTB too early? Waking up at 5 would mean that I'd only slept for 4 hours at that point. Or was it the fact that I was on the edge of attaining a WILD but moving at the last moment ruined it for me? I feel as if I am doing something gloriously wrong here, because surely an hour would be more than enough or no one would be doing WILDS because of the amount of time needed.

P.S How do I add quotes/banners to my profile? I see some people have those under their replies on posts etc.

Thanks for your time!

**Lang** · 11-11-2023 11:20 PM

Just because you have hypnagogic imagery or other stuff like that, it doesn't always mean that you are entering THE wild.

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Do you mean adding signatures to your profile?

Btw this may help with your question!! : https://www.dreamviews.com/wild/1330...-bad-here.html

**Chizu** · 11-13-2023 01:57 PM

Ah, I see. Looks like I was much further from it than I thought. And yeah I meant the signature, but I figured it out.

I'll read that WILD thread now, thanks!

**RelicWraith** · 11-17-2023 01:14 AM

Hopefully some of this helps:

1. As Lang said, hypnogogia isn't really a reliable sign that you're entering a dream state. Reason being that it doesn't always align with REM states.

2. REM timing is highly variable for most of sleep before the last one (that being between hours seven to eight). It would take a bit of experimenting and work to time it at any hours before then. For aspiring LDers, it's recommended to stick with a last hour WBTB, during which REM tends to last longer / has multiple points in the hour.

3. At a glance, it seemed there was just a bit too much concentration, not enough relaxation. During WILD attempts, there comes a point where you'd have to let go, break concentration, and allow yourself to get to sleep.

4. I don't think there was a catastrophic mistake, or anything. It's just a matter of a bit of fiddling here or there. Maybe some rescoping as well, looking at things at a more high-level, zoomed-out lens. Eg. You didn't hit a wrong note. You're just playing jazz.

**dreamscaper22** · 11-29-2023 02:13 AM

a good way to induce it though (at least for me) is to imagine someone you know talking to you. you control what they say to you but try to hear their voice saying things you want them to say and you will kinda start to hear chatter, like being in a room full of people having conversations but you wont understand a word they are saying.