Oh StephL, sorry, it is timers not timmers. That may have caused some wasted time |
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First of all - thank you fogelbise for linking me up in here! |
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Last edited by StephL; 12-11-2013 at 08:21 PM. Reason: tinkering.. ..
Oh StephL, sorry, it is timers not timmers. That may have caused some wasted time |
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Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
Hehe - soz and thanks.. |
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Last edited by anderj101; 01-19-2014 at 04:25 PM. Reason: Merged
I have no clue, i use android, but i can tell you that installing and experimenting apps was the way i choose mine. Simply reading the description was not very, if at all, accurate. |
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Last edited by VagalTone; 12-11-2013 at 11:08 PM.
Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
Hach - this seems like something I will not manage for tonight - but I try and throw myself at it tomorrow! |
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Last edited by StephL; 12-11-2013 at 11:24 PM.
This is a technique I use personally use I now set an alarm to wake me up during REM stage and another 15 minutes after I drift back off. |
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There's a study mentioned in this book: |
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Last edited by Zoth; 12-12-2013 at 12:09 AM.
Interesting Zoth ! i wonder if this rebound effect applies to such micro awakenings, and that would be a good experiment for sure. |
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Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
The alarm I use is simple called Alarm Clock. I think it came installed on i-phone. I actually do this as a mini WBTB. I must wake up enough to reach over and shake the phone. I like this method and choose it rather than an auto-snooze. I am awake for perhaps 1 minute. I choose a non-jarring alarm tone. They have many choices and I used to do birds, until it started upsetting my wife. She was getting trained to wake up every time she heard birds. Now I use some noise a bit like the X-files music. I do wake, and I do move, just not much. Then I do a WILD, but it is far more like DEILD than a traditional WILD. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 12-12-2013 at 03:07 AM.
The auto-snooze has always worked for me. With the alarm-clock extreme I set it for 5 seconds where it gradually gets louder. Something that helps generally is to practice. So whenever you have some time to kill set your alarm to go off every minute for the next 5 minutes and auto snooze. Then train yourself not to move, and to not get excited when it happens. Just lay with it going off and put the idea in your head that you won't move and will stay calm. I think it's called a mantra. Anyway that's what I've done. And although I just recently started doing it again, when I used to do it a lot it would bring on lucid dreams almost every night. And some nights I'd have 5 lucids. |
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Peter piper picked your pecker.... wait that's not right.
Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
I have experimented with this on a few occasions after seeing this thread and had a couple of successes. If you do this for many mornings in a row, do you have to change it up to keep it working? In other words, do you start to ignore the alarms consciously or subconsciously? |
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No, it's best not to change it too often. The best thing is to try to have a good regular sleep schedule, so that the sound has the same effect on your dreaming mind. Once you find a setting that works, you just have to figure out the best sleep schedule ( that includes wbtb if you like ) and try to do the same rituals during the day and night. |
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Last edited by VagalTone; 12-16-2013 at 11:47 PM.
Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
Training to the alarm in the waking state - now that sounds genial! |
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I've heard of this before although I tend to set one alarm. Then I stay up for about 15 minutes, and after I go back to sleep. |
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A little trick I use for the iPhone is to use the headphones that come with the iPhone 5 and then set the iPhone alarm to what ever time you want. Go to sleep with the volume Control (which is attached to the headphones) in your hands and when the alarm goes off slightly press the volume control to stop the alarm. This way you don't need to move to turn the alarm off. I've had many LD's doing it this way |
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I looked around and found an app called Alarm Clock Bud. It seems pretty good (multiple alarms, autosnooze, shake to turn off/snooze/etc). I won't know for sure until I try it out, though. |
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For iphone users: |
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This is the best alarm I have found for this: |
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Thank you lots - will check these all out! |
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This works for me quite well, almost every time i do it, it induces a ld. for some reason it only works on weekends though. |
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Soo - not sure, if I followed your link, Zoth - but I did follow a lot of links and searched and got more and more frustrated - until finally - benni posted this in http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...me-ld-god.html |
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Steph: |
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Try repeating a phrase in your mind or a word as soon as the alarm wakes you. This will help bring a tiny bit of waking awareness back past the curtain of sleep. I use something like "Thank you for this dream, My Lord, thank you for this dream." I also feel a double meaning with this one, as in I am also being thankful for this life (which is a dream too.) Of course that is my own phrase and your's need not be so prayer like. It could be simple, such as, "A dream, a dream, I am about to dream." Do not focus on the words in a way that will prevent sleep, instead they are just a light care free back ground thing. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 01-20-2014 at 05:15 AM.
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